The Dresden Files > DF Spoilers
Wait, How Did Warden Ramirez Know About...? - From PT
vincentric:
--- Quote from: morriswalters on December 16, 2020, 10:10:22 AM ---If Uriel just stood there in it, yeah, I mean he wouldn't, it could kill him I mean it's- again it's one of those- I mean Uriel is... he's so powerful that he's not even on the scale with everybody else. I mean yeah maybe the Eye of Balor could disintegrate Uriel if Uriel couldn't just immediately teleport anywhere or make the energy go somewhere else or basically do anything at all to defend himself. If he just stood there like a dummy, sure somebody could kill him with the Eye of Balor. He's not going to, freaking archangel.Really? Jim invents a weapon so powerful it can kill and Archangel and then places it in the hands of the village idiot. A nine foot tall village idiot who leads her chief henchman around with a leash.
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A Village idiot who put a beatdown an all star cast of immortals, wizards, heroes and monsters all by herself. And the only one she used the Eye on was Mab.
Even if they had known she had it prior to PT, who do you think is badass enough to have gone to the Formor kingdom and taken it from her?
morriswalters:
--- Quote from: vincentric on December 16, 2020, 12:00:45 PM ---A Village idiot who put a beatdown an all star cast of immortals, wizards, heroes and monsters all by herself. And the only one she used the Eye on was Mab.
Even if they had known she had it prior to PT, who do you think is badass enough to have gone to the Formor kingdom and taken it from her?
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My complaint is that the Titan didn't turn out to much of a threat as threats go, especially given the buildup. The Fomor killed more people in when they gassed a city to get at a hospital, no Eye needed. Where's the sense of menace? Where is the fear? Jim actually has Marcone rag her about it.
--- Quote ---“If you had a mind,” Marcone said, “you would have used restraint. You would have arisen from the water with no warning to anyone. You would have unleashed a wave of expendable troops on the city, blown down a building or two, and returned to the sea to watch the havoc unfold.” He shook his head. “I will simply never understand the need some people seem to feel to be proven correct in front of their enemies. It’s quite childish.”
Butcher, Jim. Battle Ground (Dresden Files) (p. 326). Penguin Publishing Group. Kindle Edition.
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vincentric:
She had overwhelming power, but her strategy was was kindergarten tantrum 101. Marcone critiques her methods not her power.
TheCuriousFan:
--- Quote from: morriswalters on December 16, 2020, 10:10:22 AM ---If Uriel just stood there in it, yeah, I mean he wouldn't, it could kill him I mean it's- again it's one of those- I mean Uriel is... he's so powerful that he's not even on the scale with everybody else. I mean yeah maybe the Eye of Balor could disintegrate Uriel if Uriel couldn't just immediately teleport anywhere or make the energy go somewhere else or basically do anything at all to defend himself. If he just stood there like a dummy, sure somebody could kill him with the Eye of Balor. He's not going to, freaking archangel.Really? Jim invents a weapon so powerful it can kill and Archangel and then places it in the hands of the village idiot. A nine foot tall village idiot who leads her chief henchman around with a leash.
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The Dresden Files is a land of glass cannons, being able to throw out rocket launcher blasts is way more common than being able to take a rocket to the face and keep on going for example.
morriswalters:
--- Quote from: vincentric on December 16, 2020, 04:50:12 PM ---She had overwhelming power, but her strategy was was kindergarten tantrum 101. Marcone critiques her methods not her power.
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Yes, village idiot 101.
--- Quote from: TheCuriousFan on December 16, 2020, 04:58:11 PM ---The Dresden Files is a land of glass cannons, being able to throw out rocket launcher blasts is way more common than being able to take a rocket to the face and keep on going for example.
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Yeah, but the Eye is the Glass Canon in this case, it's powerful if someone grabs the barrel and says shoot here. That is what pisses me off in the WOJ, because that is precisely what Jim is saying.
Here's the thing. Past antagonists have had palatable menace, you could easily see how they might win and how ugly it would be if they did. The Reds are a perfect example. Every time I think of the King Corb on the leash and the Titan all I can image is the Keystone Cops or the Gang Who Couldn't Shoot Straight. Anyway, I'll shut up about it.
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