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Wait, How Did Warden Ramirez Know About...? - From PT
Mira:
--- Quote ---The way that Harry knew how the plaque worked really bothered me. The spear a little less, but there was a little voice in the back of my mind saying to me, "this is weak." It reminds my of something a certain foul mouthed movie critic (Mr. Plinkett) on the YouTube channel Red Letter Media says about logical inconsistencies in movie scripts that you might not consciously notice; at least on a first viewing, because the movie is fast paced or a major action scene follows; "You didn't notice it, but your brain did." Sometimes it's only when you discuss a movie with other people; or in this case a novel, or re-watch or re-read it, that the writing flaws become easily apparent, but something in the back of your mind was already pinging you that something was off.
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It's been a while since I read Death Masks, but in that case, Harry figuring out how the plague was going to be unleashed wasn't that difficult, or implausible. He was given a lot of information, it became a matter of adding it up as a good detective should, he didn't need to be an epidemiologist for that. Butters introduced "patient zero," who had the plague on steroids, who happened to be a member of Father Forthill's Order, the theft of the Shroud, the involvement of both the Denarians and the Knights of the Cross, the warnings from the Loa, so putting it all of it together quite plausible, however there is a lot of other stuff going on at the same time that distracts.
As to knowing how the Spear works, yes, Harry had access to Alfred on Demonreach, he is also buds with the Knights of the Cross, along with knowing Father Forthill, all of the above would have information or some. Or perhaps more plausible, because the Spear is what it is, and the care that it goes only to those with enough smarts to get it in the first place, it comes with how to directions. In other words if you know what it is and are clever and strong enough to break it out of the vault, you get the how to knowledge that goes with it. It just happens.
morriswalters:
Maybe he simply asked Bonea. One would assume that a Fallen Angel would have known how to use the devices.
Arjan:
--- Quote from: morriswalters on December 13, 2020, 12:47:41 PM ---Maybe he simply asked Bonea. One would assume that a Fallen Angel would have known how to use the devices.
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But that would be too funny a conversation not to put in the books.
Mira:
--- Quote from: morriswalters on December 13, 2020, 12:47:41 PM ---Maybe he simply asked Bonea. One would assume that a Fallen Angel would have known how to use the devices.
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Yeah, but at this point she is so young she'd just get it confused with a back scratcher or a nose pick.
Bad Alias:
--- Quote from: KurtinStGeorge on December 13, 2020, 02:12:53 AM ---It reminds my of something a certain foul mouthed movie critic (Mr. Plinkett) on the YouTube channel Red Letter Media says about logical inconsistencies in movie scripts that you might not consciously notice; at least on a first viewing, because the movie is fast paced or a major action scene follows; "You didn't notice it, but your brain did." Sometimes it's only when you discuss a movie with other people; or in this case a novel, or re-watch or re-read it, that the writing flaws become easily apparent, but something in the back of your mind was already pinging you that something was off.
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These two books had so many little things like that, that I didn't need to wait to talk about or reread them to catch some. I still enjoyed them. These two books were probably his worst written books since Fool Moon.
--- Quote from: Mira on December 13, 2020, 12:30:49 PM ---It's been a while since I read Death Masks, but in that case, Harry figuring out how the plague was going to be unleashed wasn't that difficult, or implausible. He was given a lot of information, it became a matter of adding it up as a good detective should, he didn't need to be an epidemiologist for that. Butters introduced "patient zero," who had the plague on steroids, who happened to be a member of Father Forthill's Order, the theft of the Shroud, the involvement of both the Denarians and the Knights of the Cross, the warnings from the Loa, so putting it all of it together quite plausible, however there is a lot of other stuff going on at the same time that distracts.
As to knowing how the Spear works, yes, Harry had access to Alfred on Demonreach, he is also buds with the Knights of the Cross, along with knowing Father Forthill, all of the above would have information or some. Or perhaps more plausible, because the Spear is what it is, and the care that it goes only to those with enough smarts to get it in the first place, it comes with how to directions. In other words if you know what it is and are clever and strong enough to break it out of the vault, you get the how to knowledge that goes with it. It just happens.
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Maybe put that in the book? There's this guy I watch on YouTube who says if fans have to come up with answers to plot holes, that's just bad writing. Now plot holes is doing a lot of heavy lifting in that sentence, but depending on one's definition of plot hole, I agree.
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