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"Talk To Me..." Had Carlos Already Drank the Kool-Aid?
Dina:
Yes, I don't think Carlos is evil or that he is BC, but he can be a)nemfected (I hope not. I really don't like the "everyone is infected" trope). b)manipulated. I think at some point he will realize that b) is right and something will happen to make him a believer again. Remember, Butters began like that and now is like the stepping stone of the Dresden Church :)
Mira:
--- Quote from: Dina on November 17, 2020, 05:13:24 PM ---Yes, I don't think Carlos is evil or that he is BC, but he can be a)nemfected (I hope not. I really don't like the "everyone is infected" trope). b)manipulated. I think at some point he will realize that b) is right and something will happen to make him a believer again. Remember, Butters began like that and now is like the stepping stone of the Dresden Church :)
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We know why Butters was like that for a while. He didn't know about Harry being mostly dead and then more or less isolated on the island for a year by Mab. Meanwhile he found himself helpless while the Fomor kidnapped kids left right and center and no Harry to help. So that pissed him off for starters, then since Harry was now Winter Knight he thought that Harry didn't give a damn anymore. His only knowledge of Mab had come from Harry's point of view, and it wasn't flattering to Mab to say the least, so yeah, he thought Harry may have changed sides.
However that isn't the case with Carlos, however it isn't for nothing that Jim would write a whole short story about a sexual episode with the Winter Lady going very wrong. I agree with you I don't want to find a Neminfected character under every other rock.. Nor a star born for that matter.
Dina:
Mostly, it's the accumulation of "everybody is more than it seems" what bothers me. Too many characters are nemfected, a starborn, a secret denarian, wearing more than a mantle, under a thrall, a n ex-angel, and so on. When paranoia is THAT justified it became old fast. And losing one of those who were "just" what they seem to be, like Murph, hurts more when that is the case.
Mira:
--- Quote from: Dina on November 17, 2020, 07:42:29 PM ---Mostly, it's the accumulation of "everybody is more than it seems" what bothers me. Too many characters are nemfected, a starborn, a secret denarian, wearing more than a mantle, under a thrall, a n ex-angel, and so on. When paranoia is THAT justified it became old fast. And losing one of those who were "just" what they seem to be, like Murph, hurts more when that is the case.
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Yup, and when it really didn't work to turn her into something she wasn't, she was killed.
Wicked Woodpecker of West:
--- Quote ---Because if Carlos still felt empathy for Harry, he wouldn't have pulled what he did on the beach.
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This is not a question of empathy but of trust. Empathy is skill/ability of one's perception not necessarily moral guide.
And Carlos being more empathetic can also feel all Dresden inner darkness, even if 80% of them is Dresden's neurosis over them.
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