The Dresden Files > DF Spoilers
When did LtW join the White Council?
Wicked Woodpecker of West:
--- Quote ---And in BG, Harry knows what the placard does. I don't remember if BG mentions that he has studied the artifacts or researched them, but he obviously has.
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Well there were 5 artifacts lying together - so what placard is was easy to guess by educated man.
Now force of this artifact - I'm not sure if it was matter of theoretical study - or just power of Crucifixion artifacts is so strong he can just feel what it does. Just like just knew what Spear of Destiny is doing be holding in in his hands.
--- Quote ---4. Excepting certain powers intervening (ala red court in Mesoamerica) the population of wizards should probably be reflective of human populations, so it certainly does seem that the council is horribly western in leadership, considering that about 60% of the world population lives in Asia. And considering the references Harry has made about their locations, etc. it seems it has probably always been European dominated, which seems wrong unless there is a similar reduction in Asian wizard populations for some reason (hunted by jade court, etc.)
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White Council is quite young. 1000-1500 y.o.
Chinese wizards could have own traditions and even after joining were mostly interested into own business, just as Jade Court avoid global politics.
Bad Alias:
--- Quote from: Mira on November 16, 2020, 07:30:34 PM ---He didn't learn it because he didn't know about the Council.
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But Harry did learn Latin.
--- Quote from: toodeep on November 16, 2020, 10:11:11 PM ---3. Certain areas may have had less wizards per population that others. The Aztec/Incan region seems to have been ruled by the Red Court at the discovery of America. I see no reason why they would encourage/allow humans in their care to become wizards, and probably rooted out those with potential, leading to a very low wizard population in at least half of the new world.
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Or tracked and turned them.
--- Quote from: toodeep on November 16, 2020, 10:11:11 PM ---4. Excepting certain powers intervening (ala red court in Mesoamerica) the population of wizards should probably be reflective of human populations, so it certainly does seem that the council is horribly western in leadership, considering that about 60% of the world population lives in Asia. And considering the references Harry has made about their locations, etc. it seems it has probably always been European dominated, which seems wrong unless there is a similar reduction in Asian wizard populations for some reason (hunted by jade court, etc.)
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Could be because of medical and other developments in the West had something to do with western wizards having a higher survival rate. Most New World wizards older or close to LtW's age probably died with the rest of the population when exposed to the various Old World diseases. (The lack of New World exposure to Old World disease indicates that the wizards didn't travel between the Old and New World very often).
--- Quote from: Wicked Woodpecker of West on November 16, 2020, 11:17:24 PM ---Well there were 5 artifacts lying together - so what placard is was easy to guess by educated man.
Now force of this artifact - I'm not sure if it was matter of theoretical study - or just power of Crucifixion artifacts is so strong he can just feel what it does. Just like just knew what Spear of Destiny is doing be holding in in his hands.
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Figuring out what they are is simple. I don't think figuring out what they do is so simple. Either Harry did hands on research or looked to secondary sources describing what the placard did. Either way, he researched it.
His research could have been simple as you suggest, but I doubt it.
toodeep:
Harry thinks in Peace Talks as he is getting the Knife from Alfred, If it truly was what I was pretty sure it was, then using it was going to put me in a long-term pickle"
You'll note he actually never has to use the knife as a knife in Battle Ground. Jim conveniently finds a work around and has Marcone provide him with a bloody knife. Harry uses the knife as an Anthame in the ritual, but he never uses it as a weapon. I don't think using it as an Anthame, "put him in a pickle" so to speak, so I suspect the consequences of actually using the knife as a weapon are still to be revealed and are more in keeping with stories of the spear of Longinus.
Mira:
--- Quote from: toodeep on November 23, 2020, 05:35:37 PM ---Harry thinks in Peace Talks as he is getting the Knife from Alfred, If it truly was what I was pretty sure it was, then using it was going to put me in a long-term pickle"
You'll note he actually never has to use the knife as a knife in Battle Ground. Jim conveniently finds a work around and has Marcone provide him with a bloody knife. Harry uses the knife as an Anthame in the ritual, but he never uses it as a weapon. I don't think using it as an Anthame, "put him in a pickle" so to speak, so I suspect the consequences of actually using the knife as a weapon are still to be revealed and are more in keeping with stories of the spear of Longinus.
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It isn't about using the Spear of Destiny, itself, as a weapon. The holder of the Spear gains power from holding it.
deadvoid:
I think Jim decided the researching has to happened behind the scene because Jim would have to write twice the pages to explain how Harry has the knowledge he needed to plan & act on them, like he suddenly knew what Eye of Balor is when he explained it to Murph despite never encountered any Titan in his lifetime.
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