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[BG Spoilers] A question that has been bothering me

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morriswalters:

--- Quote from: anghammarad on October 26, 2020, 11:17:40 PM ---There is something I don't quite understand.

Toward the end of BG Harry and Lara are talking and Harry is thinking the following:
"Neither one of us liked thinking about the fact that not only had we lost Thomas; we’d failed him, too."
It is the lost Thomas part that is bothering me.  I don't remember anything happening to Thomas other than him sort of being in stasis in a cell.  The phrasing here seems to imply to me that he might be dead.  Am I reading this wrong?

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Butcher needed Thomas out of the way for the marriage arc. So he hurt him and put on that he was fatally injured.  While he's in there Lara can't use him.  And it puts him on ice until he is needed, if he is needed.  It was very hand wavy. 

There is redemption arc in there somewhere.  He had to face what he had done as a vampire.  Without some type of redemption getting a sword would have been odd.  No version of the Arthurian legend has anyone carrying the sword be an unredeemed serial killer.

anghammarad:

--- Quote from: morriswalters on October 27, 2020, 07:32:03 PM ---Butcher needed Thomas out of the way for the marriage arc. So he hurt him and put on that he was fatally injured.  While he's in there Lara can't use him.  And it puts him on ice until he is needed, if he is needed.  It was very hand wavy. 

There is redemption arc in there somewhere.  He had to face what he had done as a vampire.  Without some type of redemption getting a sword would have been odd.  No version of the Arthurian legend has anyone carrying the sword be an unredeemed serial killer.

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Interesting, I had never considered Thomas as a candidate for knight of the cross.  There certainly was a lot of screaming when he went into stasis.  I suppose that could be a step towards redemption.
Anyway, Thomas is most certainly not dead.  Glad to hear it.

bigdangmoose:
Nahh, Thomas isn't getting a sword. Thomas, with all the self control he went through back during his hunger strike, will get the WK mantle. Amoracchius is going to Molly after she loses the WL mantle. She picks up her father's sword, just like Arthur did in some of the tellings.

Wondering Wanderer:
Thomas as the Winter Knight could actually work.  Suppose Justine and the child disappear or die.  Thomas agrees to accept the knight's mantle to be released from Demonreach and free Harry for whatever comes next.  That puts him in place to work with Lady Molly, someone who soul gazed him early in the case files and with whom he has an established relationship . Mab gets her Winter - White Court alliance without Harry's wedding.  Of course, Mab doesn't let anything happen until the night before or day of the ceremony. . .

Dina:
I like the Arthur/Thomas parallelism. In most versions, Morgane was Arthur's half-sister, which would make Lara the Morgane. She is not a witch, but I think the description "enchantress" fits her well.

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