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"The Center Cannot Hold" > "Empty Night"
The_Sibelis:
--- Quote from: Mira on October 24, 2020, 05:17:27 AM ---Sounds like Alfred.
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pretty sure he's part of the dark beast that slouches towards bethlehem in the second coming. It matches his limp
Snark Knight:
--- Quote from: Wicked Woodpecker of West on October 24, 2020, 11:55:17 AM ---Oh, I found it - in last chapter of "Storm Front" in his sort of Badass Boast Harry says: "The world is getting weirder. Darker every single day. Things are spinning around faster and faster, and threatening to go completely awry. Falcons and falconers. The center cannot hold..."
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I think Murphy also quoted it at one point somewhere. I'm thinking around the time she lost command of SI.
Bad Alias:
--- Quote ---We loosed some of the primal forces of your own precious Creation against you.
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I took that to mean Ethniu, but the Fallen is an interesting theory.
--- Quote from: Mira on October 23, 2020, 02:05:42 PM ---I am not sure whether or not the Red King ever realizes that he was no more than a cat's paw for Nemesis. He was, down to his vendetta against Eb, the kidnapping of little Maggie which lead to Harry reversing the spell that ended the Red Court.. Hmm.. Did the Red King willingly sacrifice himself and his people for the cause? Or their function finished, they were discarded, making way for a force, The Fomor.
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The destruction of the Red Court could have been a defeat for the Outsiders.
--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on October 23, 2020, 06:10:25 PM ---The irony is of course that wizards retard progress.
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Jim has said they helped get the Renaissance (or maybe Enlightenment or maybe both) going. They might still be at it, even if they can't benefit directly from technological progress at the moment.
--- Quote from: Mira on October 24, 2020, 12:14:34 PM ---Yup, but then Harry was still young and foolish..
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I'm not so sure. The last bit of SF really felt like it was a well established Harry telling his story. At least to me.
--- Quote from: Snark Knight on October 25, 2020, 12:04:09 AM ---I think Murphy also quoted it at one point somewhere. I'm thinking around the time she lost command of SI.
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She definitely said something about the center not holding. I think it was earlier than that, but I'm not sure.
Mira:
--- Quote ---The destruction of the Red Court could have been a defeat for the Outsiders.
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I think it was made to look that way. The Red Court were merely being used as a cat's paw by them as Harry suspected and told Morgan I think at the end of Dead Beat. When they were done away with, the Fomor were raised up to take their place, more ruthless and sewing even more chaos among humanity and the Accords.
--- Quote ---I'm not so sure. The last bit of SF really felt like it was a well established Harry telling his story. At least to me.
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Perhaps because it might be an older, wiser, and well established Harry writing the story, for all we know he might be close to 300 when he decided to write down his history.
Wicked Woodpecker of West:
--- Quote ---I'm not so sure. The last bit of SF really felt like it was a well established Harry telling his story. At least to me.
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I don't think so. It was very connected to his low-life spook-P.I. aspect, and too event just between SF an FM.
I see no strong foreshadowing except - things are getting worse, which is very very vague.
And really I hope Dresden Files do not exist in DF-verse as some diaries or confessions.
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