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Mab and Lara
Ed0517:
--- Quote from: ElJefe81 on October 19, 2020, 09:52:58 PM ---she's been Mab for a thousand years, and the only Winter Ladies we know of are Maeve and Molly...there obviously were Winter Ladies before Maeve, so the question is whether they were actual daughters of Mab, and more importantly, were they discarded because they showed the same lack of restraint as Maeve?
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hmmm...daughters.... or people with Fae links like Lily.... could Molly be a descendant of Mab? They refer to Mab as in the time of Hastings... Britain.... we know Charity's parents were wealthy, and that could be a Puritan sounding name... maybe Charity descended from a Mayflower family, old money.... maybe Boston Brahmin... so proper... with a magic strain running thru the blood lines that One Does Not Talk About.... Charity ran away from tat life, but not her blood...
Ed0517:
--- Quote from: Basil on October 18, 2020, 04:25:05 AM ---This is an interesting thought.
Mab believes that White Court Vampires are "mortal enough" to be vessels for the Fae mantels. She told Harry that Thomas would be his replacement if Harry didn't play ball.
Also consider that the Winter Mother was able to construct an enchantment that COULD have taken the thirst away from Susan. Leansidhe was able to quiet the thirst for both Susan and Martin. Harry immediately realized the implication -- if she could do that, then with some study, the thirst could be eliminated.
The White Court is every bit as human as the half-turned reds like Susan and Martin. I don't think Lara's hunger would be any obstacle to the Winter Mother, or Mab or even Leansidhe.
Lara would make a pretty good Winter Queen. Much better at it than Molly.
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I think Mother Summer and Mother Winter are likely tied as the second most powerful beings we have seen - either of them with their reality warping would have kicked Ethnieu right back into the water without a sweat. And since neither Ferrovax nor Vadderrung stepped up to slap the Titan down, she must be above them on the scale as well. The only one that probably can slap THEM down is Uriel. Though none of them can stop that Angel of Death if she is doing her mission. But her purview is limited.
Mira:
--- Quote ---I think Mother Summer and Mother Winter are likely tied as the second most powerful beings we have seen - either of them with their reality warping would have kicked Ethnieu right back into the water without a sweat. And since neither Ferrovax nor Vadderrung stepped up to slap the Titan down, she must be above them on the scale as well. The only one that probably can slap THEM down is Uriel. Though none of them can stop that Angel of Death if she is doing her mission. But her purview is limited.
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But Vadderrung/Odin did, one has to wonder if he was playing possum when supposedly Ethnieu slapped him down and stole Swayer. He had her and the weapon right where he wanted them, he said the word and Swayer turned on her going for the Eye. Do you think it just luck that Lara and company just happened to appear in that moment and kick the Eye out of her head? Thus making her vulnerable, it was a set up. As Harry said, in the end he was merely batting clean up.
StrayDog:
--- Quote from: Dina on October 19, 2020, 10:16:52 PM ---Ok, here is a WAG: Harry is destined to eliminate all vampires. He already did it with the red ones and he will do it with the Black when he kills Drakul and everyone discovers that the old trope of "killing the vampire boss kills every one under them" is true. Then come the whites. Harry will probably discover a way to do kill the hunger, which will be great for Thomas and his baby but not so much for elder vampires, who will die without the hunger. Well, that is why becoming Lady will be so important for her. It will provide an escape for Molly that did not complicate things for the universe.
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This is very interesting, please continue with your WAG. What could happen next? My own WAG is that Lara tried to finish Papa off but discovered that he was attached to an Outsider, hence the need for Harry. She knows Harry can take on Outsiders, she was there in the Deeps. Mab of course is always looking to improve so will take advantage any place she can work it.
ElJefe81:
--- Quote from: Ed0517 on October 20, 2020, 08:18:58 AM ---hmmm...daughters.... or people with Fae links like Lily.... could Molly be a descendant of Mab? They refer to Mab as in the time of Hastings... Britain.... we know Charity's parents were wealthy, and that could be a Puritan sounding name... maybe Charity descended from a Mayflower family, old money.... maybe Boston Brahmin... so proper... with a magic strain running thru the blood lines that One Does Not Talk About.... Charity ran away from tat life, but not her blood...
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We also know Michael's line goes back to royalty, so it's possible that Mab "meddled" on her father's side as well
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