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Mab and Lara

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BrainFireBob:

--- Quote from: Mira on October 19, 2020, 07:26:19 PM ---I agree with Dina, what does "technically" mean exactly?  It's kind of like being a "little bit" pregnant, ether you are or you aren't.. I know there are teenagers that discount having oral sex for example as having sex because there was no penetration...Exactly, but it is still sex, and then being a "virgin" depends on how narrowly or broadly you want to define the term.

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Yep, and Mab and Jim have been clear on the pregnancy part being the risk and that a Lady with "good self control" can do "some things" with a quiescent Mantle.

Pretty strong implication the Mantle counts vaginal only

Arjan:
It is actually a funny conversation:


--- Quote ---Her face turned pink and she hid her face in her hands. “I… I… well. I’m a virgin.”
I arched an eyebrow at her.
She glanced up at me, blushed more, and added, “Technically.”
“Technically,” I said.
“Urn. I’ve… explored. Most of the bases.”
“I see,” I said. “Well, Magellan, no baserunning or boldly going where no man has gone before for you—not until you get yourself grounded. Sex makes things complicated, and for you that could be bad.”
“But…”
“And no, ah, solo exploration either.”
She blinked at me and asked in a blank tone, “Why?”
“You’ll go blind,” I said, and walked up to her front

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You just have to guess what is meant by technically but I don’t think she had a hymen repair operation.

morriswalters:

--- Quote from: BrainFireBob on October 19, 2020, 07:28:40 PM ---Yep, and Mab and Jim have been clear on the pregnancy part being the risk and that a Lady with "good self control" can do "some things" with a quiescent Mantle.

Pretty strong implication the Mantle counts vaginal only

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That falls among the dumbest things he has ever said.

BrainFireBob:

--- Quote from: morriswalters on October 19, 2020, 07:56:22 PM ---That falls among the dumbest things he has ever said.

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His world, his physics.

I expect it's intended as part of his "the Fae are super old school, preChristian old school" reasoning.

Dina:
Arjan, Ok, that explains it. I had totally forgotten about that. Wow, Harry was such a jerk there.

So, if being a virgin is a pre-requisite for being a Lady, Harry telling him that sex is bad for her is tragic in rereading. It would have saved her.

If being a virgin is not a prerequisite (as Lily and Sarissa apparently imply) then it is not relevant for the mantle thing.

And yes, the mantle clearly is concerned only about vaginal penetration. Still, will it be modern enough to accept it if the male wears a condom and if she uses a IUD?  :D

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