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MURPHYS [BG Spoilers]

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BrainFireBob:

--- Quote from: Mira on October 18, 2020, 10:56:25 AM ---The time line may be off, or in the earlier short stories Harry is wrong, because I was rereading some of the short stories while waiting for Battle Ground to come out and in one of them Harry describes Murphy and says she is about five years older than himself.

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Correct. And Murphy was a mentor to him in terms of sparring, survival, and as an investigator.

Structurally, death of a mentor is due. Michael, another mentor figure, was injured but not eliminated in a prior book.

bigdangmoose:

--- Quote from: BrainFireBob on October 19, 2020, 04:27:25 AM ---Correct. And Murphy was a mentor to him in terms of sparring, survival, and as an investigator.

Structurally, death of a mentor is due. Michael, another mentor figure, was injured but not eliminated in a prior book.

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I made a similar point in the thread who's going to die in BG. It's not just a mentor thing. Jim has been dismantling Harry's team and life since I believe I said SmF. Go back and take a look at the thread. Maybe now though he is going to start getting his life back together now that he has his home back and upgraded. And possibly Bob. We will just have to wait and see.

Mira:

--- Quote from: bigdangmoose on October 19, 2020, 11:36:27 AM ---I made a similar point in the thread who's going to die in BG. It's not just a mentor thing. Jim has been dismantling Harry's team and life since I believe I said SmF. Go back and take a look at the thread. Maybe now though he is going to start getting his life back together now that he has his home back and upgraded. And possibly Bob. We will just have to wait and see.

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I think it is more of a reshuffling of the deck chairs of his life.  Harry, in the first half of the series was more or less a detective wizard.  With Changes that began to radically change, it has to because the set up for the BAT needs a different set of supporters and enemies than he had in the first half of the series.

Bad Alias:

--- Quote from: BrainFireBob on October 19, 2020, 04:27:25 AM ---Structurally, death of a mentor is due.

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Structurally, the death of the mentor isn't part of the Hero's Journey. Also, basically everything could be a mentor. In my opinion, the Hero's Journey is so vague as to be useless as any sort of analytical framework.

BrainFireBob:

--- Quote from: Bad Alias on October 19, 2020, 05:05:29 PM ---Structurally, the death of the mentor isn't part of the Hero's Journey. Also, basically everything could be a mentor. In my opinion, the Hero's Journey is so vague as to be useless as any sort of analytical framework.

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Which is irrelevant to what I said. Harry needs to stand on his own merits without needing mentors.

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