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Who really killed ... BG spoilers!!!!
morriswalters:
I can see someone shattered by a loved one dying in front of their eyes. But Harry is in a berserker rage all out of proportion to what is happening on the page. It isn't hard to see him killing Rudolph but attacking the Knights is an altogether different thing. The smell of Brimstone when Harry walks into the blade suggests something else at work given these passages.
--- Quote ---“People can be evil,” Michael said. “They can be good. They can choose. That’s . . . part of what makes us people.” He shook his head. “I came to recognize the presence of evil over the years. True darkness is very different than mere rage or terror or greed, or desire for vengeance. I’ve met only a handful of mortals who were truly evil. Nicodemus and his like.”
Butcher, Jim. Peace Talks (Dresden Files) (p. 178). Penguin Publishing Group. Kindle Edition.
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--- Quote ---I nodded. “Angels are creatures of absolutes. You’d have to be pretty darned absolute to qualify as evil—or good—by their standards. It’s why they like Michael so much.”
Butcher, Jim. Peace Talks (Dresden Files) (p. 178). Penguin Publishing Group. Kindle Edition.
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--- Quote ---“Your Sword isn’t going to be of any use against mortals,” I said quietly. “It’s better than ever at handling monsters, but if one of them hires a bruiser from the outfit, that guy is going to bounce you off the ceiling.”
Butcher, Jim. Peace Talks (Dresden Files) (p. 179). Penguin Publishing Group. Kindle Edition.
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TrueMonk:
It is definately very interesting.
It could be that if he lets the winter mantle all in then he qualifies as "true darkness". But it does not seem entirely likely to me.
Mira:
--- Quote ---I can see someone shattered by a loved one dying in front of their eyes. But Harry is in a berserker rage all out of proportion to what is happening on the page. It isn't hard to see him killing Rudolph but attacking the Knights is an altogether different thing. The smell of Brimstone when Harry walks into the blade suggests something else at work given these passages.
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What I find interesting, is the way the paragraph is written just when the burn happens you have ask; is Harry smelling sulfur and brimstone, or is he imagining it because the burn is a physical reminder that what he was about to do is wrong?
page 212
--- Quote ---The stench of my own flesh filled my nose, somehow laced with the scent of sulfur and brimstone.
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The interesting word is somehow, that implies doubt, is it or isn't it? Is the evil scent truly coming from Harry, or is he imagining it? When one gets a sudden severe burn, the brain usually isn't about sorting out what the nose is smelling, especially when it is your own flesh charring.
It goes back to what Michael said about the difference between truly evil men, and those who do evil out of anger etc. Harry had very good reasons for acting the way he did in the wake of Murphy's murder, but that doesn't make his actions right, and could send him down a very dark road. I think this is what the Sword was warning him about, that is why he thought he could smell the sulfur and the brimstone, "this act will lead to you becoming a monster." It stopped Harry in his tracts, he doesn't want to become that man, he went down that road with Lasciel and rejected it. If it wanted to, the Sword easily could have cut off his arm, it didn't, but it did send a very pointed warning.
morriswalters:
It says what it says. And if you think that is a rational outcome of loss then we have very different views on the issue. And this is the second time in the series that it has happened.
Mira:
--- Quote from: morriswalters on October 14, 2020, 02:52:02 PM ---It says what it says. And if you think that is a rational outcome of loss then we have very different views on the issue. And this is the second time in the series that it has happened.
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No one said it was rational, it was a totally emotional response. Butters and Sanya know that, the Sword knows that, that is why the warning burn and it didn't take his fricking arm off.. As Michael would say, "it wasn't a response of true darkness." It is hard to say how one will act upon seeing a loved one dying violently and needlessly at the hands of someone. What the head and heart say and trigger might be two opposing things.. The head may say, "hold back, this isn't right." But the heart might be screaming, "kill the bastard.." Both may feel they are very good reasons..
By the first, if you mean when Harry did over kill on the ghouls who murdered and half ate those kids. It also was an emotional response. he also had a fallen angel's shadow in his head at the time, and no Holy Knights to try and stop him. Now Harry has rationalized that response, but he is also ashamed of his response just as he is about going after Rudolph. Ashamed means remorse, which means hopefully trying to learn something from the experience.
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