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Griffyn612:
--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on October 09, 2020, 04:55:51 PM ---Yet LTW knows it when he sees it, which supports my theory that Martha Liberty (who has never seen Harry use it, due to Checkov’s broken leg) also has access to soulfire, he saw her use it in her role as a Voodoo Priestess. Eb, Christos and Carlos has seen him use it, unlikely that Carlos knew what it was especially as it was mixed with Winter power, and Christos is dead, so did Eb recognise it?
Most members of the White Council have little or no use for organised religion, so the chances of one getting granted Soulfire are slim, especially if a large number of them are jerks (though that didn’t stop Harry). Too many pursue power for powers sake, which disqualifies them, and they have to cross the Fallen, and most are too cowardly.
Vlad Dracul doesn’t seem a candidate for soulfire or being a wizard, and WOJ has it that he is something else forced into a human body. He was a member of the Order of the dragon, so could that be it? A Dragon or even a dragon forced into a human body and stuck that way? Drakul is Modern Romanian for Devil. Could Dracul have been a meat puppet for either Lucifer or another of the Fallen (not Denarians)
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Wouldn't "modern Romanian" be post-Dracul/Dracula, and therefore influenced by the individuals? The origin for Dracul is Dragon, from the Order of the Dragon, which revolved around the story of St. George and the Dragon.
Real world-wise, there's not much reason for the order to have adopted the Dragon as its symbol, as the Dragon was killed by St. George after it demanded sacrifices. Interestingly, their symbol was the Dragon with its own tail wrapped around its neck, almost as if it were tamed by itself. Perhaps their symbolism was to turn that which had been evil to good?
Dresdenverse-wise, it'd be interesting if the Order of the Dragon was tied to doing just that. Imbuing someone with the power of the slain Dragon in order to let them wield it in a cause for good. Vlad II could have become their chosen host for the power, which is why he got the moniker. Maybe he was a Starborn and they thought he could control it, only things went... badly.
Mira:
--- Quote ---Dresdenverse-wise, it'd be interesting if the Order of the Dragon was tied to doing just that. Imbuing someone with the power of the slain Dragon in order to let them wield it in a cause for good. Vlad II could have become their chosen host for the power, which is why he got the moniker. Maybe he was a Starborn and they thought he could control it, only things went... badly.
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In think more often than not, it does go badly, there is a reason why Jim decided to go with the 666 years between births. And that is why the choice of Malcolm for Harry's father is so significant in this whole process. And why Harry is told over and over again he has a good heart like his father. I don't think he is being told this just to be saying something nice about him. It is what sets him apart from and keeps him from becoming a monster like Drakul and Listen. It's the bit that the White Council doesn't get.
Griffyn612:
--- Quote from: Mira on October 09, 2020, 08:41:00 PM ---In think more often than not, it does go badly, there is a reason why Jim decided to go with the 666 years between births. And that is why the choice of Malcolm for Harry's father is so significant in this whole process. And why Harry is told over and over again he has a good heart like his father. I don't think he is being told this just to be saying something nice about him. It is what sets him apart from and keeps him from becoming a monster like Drakul and Listen. It's the bit that the White Council doesn't get.
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One good point you make is that if Harry was born in 1975, give or take a few years, then the last Starborn alignment would have been 1306, give or take a few years.
Vlad II was born real-world in "before 1395". Open-ended, sure, but his father was born 1355. So the Starborn alignment date was fudged, or the Dresdenverse Vlad II wasn't the son of Mircea I.
So maybe it opens the door for him to being the son of someone... Something... else.
StrayDog:
Did Papa Raith sire a male Starborn Whampire?
Did Kemmler unsuccessfully try to take over this Whampire using Necromancy creating Dracul?
Did Papa Raith try to wipe out Dracul and his horde using Stoker's book?
Are the Blampires now trying to convert all of the Whampires to Blampires using Necromancy?
Is Lara hoping to compel Harry to help defeat these Blampires?
The_Sibelis:
--- Quote from: BrainFireBob on October 09, 2020, 03:39:10 PM ---Gifted. Per WoJ, only about 6 wizards have ever been granted it.
It's the angelic analog to Hellfire.
Uriel is explicit about having gifted it to Harry.
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where/when was that Woj if you might know? I didn't know we'd had word on that..
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