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The_Sibelis:

--- Quote from: Mira on October 12, 2020, 01:42:16 PM ---So what do you disagree with?  And what are your ideas.

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sorry... My face is on fire from my tooth and I'm having trouble with coherent thoughts atm, I'll come back later. agony, pure unadulterated agony. Dumbledore drinking the green potion kinda agony...

StrayDog:

--- Quote from: The_Sibelis on October 12, 2020, 01:39:41 PM ---And I still by and large disagree with most of your original statements.

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Right with you, especially the head shot vs body shot, but it is entirely possible that Ivy has far more important matters at play than Harry.

Mira:

--- Quote from: The_Sibelis on October 12, 2020, 01:54:01 PM --- sorry... My face is on fire from my tooth and I'm having trouble with coherent thoughts atm, I'll come back later. agony, pure unadulterated agony. Dumbledore drinking the green potion kinda agony...

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My sympathies, I hope you can get into a dentist in this age of COVID.. 

--- Quote ---Right with you, especially the head shot vs body shot, but it is entirely possible that Ivy has far more important matters at play than Harry.
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She does, and understands that the Archive is more important so has removed her emotional self from the problem. 

Dina:

--- Quote from: The_Sibelis on October 12, 2020, 01:54:01 PM --- sorry... My face is on fire from my tooth and I'm having trouble with coherent thoughts atm, I'll come back later. agony, pure unadulterated agony. Dumbledore drinking the green potion kinda agony...

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As Mira says, hope you can find a dentist soon. Meanwhile, I've found that having a couple of powdered aspirines appplied in the hurting tooth helps with the pain. Even better if you just use the tooth to chew a couple of aspirines, but sometimes it hurts too much to chew anything.

The_Sibelis:
Ugh yea. Idk what to do when it flairs up like that. I try gargling benzocaine and I can still feel it so.. anyway though
I don't think the archive itself has more control so much as Ivy had leaned into the archive for support not knowing how to behave otherwise. The Archive only runs the show because Ivy doesn't know how to cope most of the time. If her mother managed suicide (there are conflicting stories on this, in one version she's dead, in another she's in a coma.. idk why the change...) Then not only did she manage to override the natural will to live but any inhibitions placed upon her by the archive itself to survive. That would seem to imply it's the host who has final say overall. The hosts started distancing themselves on purpose, not as an original function of the mantle itself but as a learned behavior. So it's not an internal mechanism per se. But an act of choice to preserve sanity for the host. Harry also named Ivy, much like he did Lash.. idk the scope of how that will effect things but it gave Ivy a portion of autonomy she may not have possessed before, having had no insulation from the archive previously. Could even effect the Mantle itself perhaps. She follows the archives total lead by choice, not by design though.

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