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Anyone Else Surprised or Disappointed That Harry
BrainFireBob:
--- Quote from: Mira on October 13, 2020, 01:48:48 PM ---Why? She never knew her mother, while both Harry and Kincaid were the only two people that acknowledged that she even was a human child. Until she met Harry at the age of seven or so she didn't have a name other than, "the Archive." And no, it wasn't a hard shot for Kincaid, he isn't totally human lets not forget. His fear about doing a chest shot is Harry would live long enough to throw his death curse at him.
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The Archive records everything. Why would it not retain host memories?
She should know her mother precisely, and her grandmother, back to the beginning of the Archive.
The_Sibelis:
--- Quote from: Dina on October 14, 2020, 08:56:02 PM ---But another body wouldn't have Harry's talents. Remember what happened with Luccio. Also, probably not a starborn.
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from what EB said it's the energy of their existence not necessarily anything in particular about their blood or body that makes a starborn. So though the change in talent/power level might be an issue I don't think it would change his resonant frequency.
Mira:
--- Quote from: BrainFireBob on October 14, 2020, 09:05:02 PM ---The Archive records everything. Why would it not retain host memories?
She should know her mother precisely, and her grandmother, back to the beginning of the Archive.
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Well, apparently it doesn't work that way, plus with wizards it is a matter of how they are wired neurologically. I think it was in Fool Moon, Harry was having some problems fighting and got bailed out by Terra West and the Alphas , but what I am getting at is he almost blacked out and he said that some of the new skills he was trying weren't fully settled into his nervous system or something to that effect. Luccio said essentially the same thing after the Corpsetaker got her, she enjoys sex as a woman with a twenty something year old body should, however she can no longer make custom Warden swords anymore, the "how to" is still in her brain, but the wiring to get the magical skill out her fingers to forge a sword are not there.
StrayDog:
--- Quote from: BrainFireBob on October 14, 2020, 09:05:02 PM ---The Archive records everything. Why would it not retain host memories?
She should know her mother precisely, and her grandmother, back to the beginning of the Archive.
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Didn't Luccio say something to that effect when she was explaining why Harry shouldn't get close to Ivy?
Mira:
--- Quote from: StrayDog on October 15, 2020, 12:39:42 AM ---Didn't Luccio say something to that effect when she was explaining why Harry shouldn't get close to Ivy?
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Here is what she says about the Archive's memory page 407 Small Favor
--- Quote ---"When the Archive is passed. . . Harry, try to imagine living your life, with all of its triumps and tragedies--and suddenly with a second set of memories, every bit as real to you as your own. A second set of heartaches, loves, triumphs, losses. All of them as real--and then a third. And a forth. And a fifth. And more and more and more. The perfect memory, the absolute recall of every Archive that came before you. Five thousand years of them."
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Conclusion, it would drive anyone insane.
So the Archive came up with a solution.. same page Small Favor;
--- Quote ---"The Archive keeps its host emotionally remote for a reason--because otherwise the passions and prejudices and hatreds and jealousies of thousands of lifetimes have the potential to distill themselves into a single being."
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Goes on to say normally an Archive host has a lifetime of experience to insulate her from all of this. However Ivy has none of it, her grandmother died in that crash and her mother suicided rather than carry the Archive because she was jealous of her own baby[Ivy] who'd have a lifetime of freedom while she was forced to host the Archive, so she killed herself.
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