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morriswalters:

--- Quote from: The_Sibelis on October 07, 2020, 02:55:21 PM ---Ramirez is getting crabby about harry playing things close to the chest but so does everyone else... If he'd talked to Harry about Molly and why he was so upset at Harry it might have opened up about some of his business at least.

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Harry knew about what had happened to Carlos.

The_Sibelis:

--- Quote from: morriswalters on October 07, 2020, 05:37:05 PM ---Harry knew about what had happened to Carlos.

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Harry knew about the chupacabra, he did not know Molly attacked him or why.

Dina:

--- Quote from: Mira on October 07, 2020, 11:59:20 AM ---I agree, when I said it seemed weird, that is what I meant. 

Tit for tat doesn't help anything does it?  Harry did feel bad, he said as much, but he didn't say anything.  But blaming Harry for the deaths etc?  Not only was it untrue, but it was a extremely low blow.
Well, that makes two of them, doesn't it?

Yes, but is it possible now?  At the time there was no time..  An Harry knew that anything he said, would and could be used against him.  How would it go down when they found out he was related to the assassin?  Don't you think it odd that in the end they accuse him of breaking the law for killing Turtlenecks with magic?  So it is a trumped up charge, then they sentence him to death by the Blackstaff, then they suspend the sentence..  No, they wanted Harry out, while at least two members who'd advocate for him in surgery, they boot him out.

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Oh, I agree, the part about blaming Harry for the deaths was awful (and got me personally angry at Ramirez). And about killing humans...I am pretty sure the other wizards killed Fomor related humans too. It was too chaotic.
I see no reason why they can't met at Mac's. It is neutral, so Ramirez doesn't need to be afraid (it is also designed to cut magic).

Mira:

--- Quote ---Did Harry visit Carlos at any point in Carlos's recovery? Harry has been very busy and confined for a year at the island but people make time for things that are important to them. Why not a quick lunch at Mac's? Why not a conversation with Molly for that matter? Has he talked about keeping the Mantel at bay with her at all? 
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We have no clue one way or the other.  Where did Carlos do his recovering?  Would Carlos even level with Harry or anyone else as to how he got hurt?  It may have been a huge blow to his pride that he got so beat up trying to have sex with the Winter Lady..

--- Quote ---I see no reason why they can't met at Mac's. It is neutral, so Ramirez doesn't need to be afraid (it is also designed to cut magic).
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I can't either, except for one thing, both have to want to. 

Rigil Kent:

--- Quote from: The_Sibelis on October 07, 2020, 05:40:52 PM --- Harry knew about the chupacabra, he did not know Molly attacked him or why.

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Yeah, that's how I read it as well. If you read their interactions as Carlos thinking Harry knows that Molly went gonzo on him due to the Mantle, and Harry not actually knowing about that, it sheds a lot of light on why Carlos is frustrated at him because it does seem like Dresden is threatening him and being an utter dick about it to boot...

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