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Justine plot hole [BG spoilers]
peregrine:
If Justine is being possessed, how would Thomas have the True Love Protection from someone who wasn't really in control of themselves, or possibly even truly in love at all?
Though that does torpedo my theory that Nemesis can't possess mortal humans.
Griffyn612:
--- Quote from: peregrine on October 05, 2020, 02:18:46 AM ---If Justine is being possessed, how would Thomas have the True Love Protection from someone who wasn't really in control of themselves, or possibly even truly in love at all?
Though that does torpedo my theory that Nemesis can't possess mortal humans.
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Would Thomas have protection of True Love? Justine would, and did, at least at one point. But would Thomas be safe from the others?
As for the Beside not infecting mortals thing, that really seemed out the window after the Cold Days list, but full control is still somewhat surprising. They have to abide by the thrice asked rule but not other mortal limitations?
B33bl3br0x:
I'm convinced that this is one of the things that happened the night of Bianca's party. If you remember, before that, Justine was with Thomas because she had a condition that made her basically insane, and Thomas feeding on her made her even out. Yet after Bianca's party she went for years without being fed on and she was just fine.
I've been convinced that Justine was be nemfected since nemesis was identified; it allows beings act against their nature, and Justine was suddenly this totally cool and put together person. I'm convinced that this is another one of the 'several things of significance' that happened that night, of which Harry was unaware. Her saying that it was when she started getting close to Lara was just another ploy, imho, to get Harry to think that Lara is the one who infected Justine (You know, since the ploy of getting Justine into the depths of Demon Reach was clearly failing).
TheCuriousFan:
--- Quote from: B33bl3br0x on October 05, 2020, 02:56:44 AM ---I'm convinced that this is one of the things that happened the night of Bianca's party. If you remember, before that, Justine was with Thomas because she had a condition that made her basically insane, and Thomas feeding on her made her even out. Yet after Bianca's party she went for years without being fed on and she was just fine.
I've been convinced that Justine was be nemfected since nemesis was identified; it allows beings act against their nature, and Justine was suddenly this totally cool and put together person. I'm convinced that this is another one of the 'several things of significance' that happened that night, of which Harry was unaware. Her saying that it was when she started getting close to Lara was just another ploy, imho, to get Harry to think that Lara is the one who infected Justine (You know, since the ploy of getting Justine into the depths of Demon Reach was clearly failing).
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He was pretty regularly feeding on Justine until the events of Blood Rites, Harry even makes an argument based on it after the monkey chase IIRC.
Griffyn612:
--- Quote from: B33bl3br0x on October 05, 2020, 02:56:44 AM ---I'm convinced that this is one of the things that happened the night of Bianca's party.
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In Blood Rites, a nearly comatose Justine points the good guys to the Deeps. Doing so jeopardizes the ritual Raith was performing, which was to summon Behind. What you're proposing would mean Beside worked against summoning Behind.
I just don't see the point in thinking the enemy is lying. Everyone thought it was a Maeve lie to Lily that Beside/Nemesis was involved with everyone, now there's an argument that Beside is lying again.
There's just no point to it. It'd hurt Harry more if he thought every moment he'd had with Justine had been with Beside; that their shared experience in the basement at Bianca's had been a lie, that it'd been Beside who showed up at his door in nothing but a ribbon.
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