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Revelations and Rereads (Battle Ground Spoilers)
Mira:
--- Quote ---We, and Harry, only suspect Nemesis can't infect him. We don't know that Elaine is star born.
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There is circumstantial evidence, that either she isn't a star born as hoped, or she took a different turn, and her path is way different.
Evidence for; If she was born about the same time as Harry, the stars would have been aligned for
her also.
Justin pulled her out of the orphanage, or we think he did, we don't know her full story, for some reason presumably because he felt she could be.
Evidence against; Justin was able to enthrall her.
She fled to the Summer Court after Justin died, and Aurora began to show symptoms of infection.
In Summer Knight though in the end she did help Harry, her actions were suspect of infection when you look back.
Shrug of shoulders; In White Night she seemed very normal, very level headed wizard type lady..
Verdict? Too little information to go by..
TheCuriousFan:
--- Quote from: Mira on October 08, 2020, 09:39:10 PM ---There is circumstantial evidence, that either she isn't a star born as hoped, or she took a different turn, and her path is way different.
Evidence for; If she was born about the same time as Harry, the stars would have been aligned for
her also.
Justin pulled her out of the orphanage, or we think he did, we don't know her full story, for some reason presumably because he felt she could be.
Evidence against; Justin was able to enthrall her.
She fled to the Summer Court after Justin died, and Aurora began to show symptoms of infection.
In Summer Knight though in the end she did help Harry, her actions were suspect of infection when you look back.
Shrug of shoulders; In White Night she seemed very normal, very level headed wizard type lady..
Verdict? Too little information to go by..
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I say she's not infected because if she was she'd have just delayed for 5 more seconds or let the thorns take him. She had way too many chances to let Aurora win to be also infected.
The_Sibelis:
--- Quote from: Snark Knight on October 08, 2020, 04:51:49 PM ---I'm still suspicious that Tessa was behind that and threw the blame on Namshiel as far as Mab is concerned, and Rosanna as far as Nic is concerned.
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what evidence is there that it was Namshiel? Like, does anyone ever come out and say it? The closest I remember is Harry mentioning him when Mabs talking about the Attack and she goes cold and cruel about the reply. But does she blame the fallen or the host? The host was already dead.. and from the way she talked to Anduriel I'd assume if she blames Namshiel then Marcone having the coin changes nothing but perhaps a newfound ire for Marcone as an ally of an enemy.. an enemy owed a dept.
The_Sibelis:
--- Quote from: TheCuriousFan on October 09, 2020, 08:12:42 AM ---I say she's not infected because if she was she'd have just delayed for 5 more seconds or let the thorns take him. She had way too many chances to let Aurora win to be also infected.
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two things on this
1 her birthday is in summer. I'm not saying she's not starborn but this leaves big questions about why Eb said once every 666 and conjoined that with the starborn light only falling on earth for a free hours... We're being mislead somewhere here..
2 because of how Maeve talks about mortal madness, I assume Elaine being around constantly WAS the vector to Aurora... Cant remember who was speaking on watching her slowly change throughout the years in BG but I assume that was the effect of Elaine's presence... Harry changes stuff by interaction, and naming.. why not Elaine if she is Starborn? Idk if she was aware of what she was doing or not, but it's what I think happened. Elaine showed her the perspective of never ceasing violence and destruction the two courts balancing act caused from a human standpoint.
Mira:
--- Quote from: TheCuriousFan on October 09, 2020, 08:12:42 AM ---I say she's not infected because if she was she'd have just delayed for 5 more seconds or let the thorns take him. She had way too many chances to let Aurora win to be also infected.
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That is possible, but is it also possible that Elaine is or was a carrier? She brought Nemesis to the Summer Court, in the process of infecting Aurora, was cured herself? Or it is also possible that it wasn't the plan to take Harry out in that moment, because it would mess up the over all plan, thinking in the long term as Marcone put it.
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