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Is Harry OP? [Battle Ground Spoilers]
Rigil Kent:
--- Quote from: Griffyn612 on October 01, 2020, 08:02:07 PM ---Right. So things are known by most. And you know how the magical community just loves to share info and rumor.
Wait, they don't? Well still. I think some of that word will be shared.
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To be fair, Eb and Odin were there at the same time. Granted, Eb knew, but in the (unlikely) event that old One Eye didn't, well, he does now. :)
Mira:
--- Quote ---The White Council officially knows about the island and ley line. The Gray Council knows about Bob and Amoracchius from Changes. Seems likely that at least Vadderung knows about the items from Hades vault, given his habit of knowing things. Someone recognized Margaret's necklace in BG (can't recall who at the moment). The Eye of Balor is highly suspected. Everyone saw the Little Folk answer his call.
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Yes and no, as far as the island goes, when Harry tells Eb in Peace Talks he could always go and live on the island. Eb makes the comment about how most of the Council hasn't a clue of what the island is. I think so far only Rashid and Eb know what it really is about, at least in print.
Yuillegan:
--- Quote from: Eleyctra on October 01, 2020, 08:17:20 PM ---Wait, what was the info on the wrestling book? I heard it once years ago, but thought Jim was just joking. Do we have any extra info on it?
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Not much beyond it's a battle of the various Gods and we will learn a bit more about them. I suspect it will be a bit ridiculous and dramatic, of course.
I do hope Jim does it well because it could come off as cheesy and then it would be really boring.
--- Quote from: Mira on October 01, 2020, 08:33:12 PM ---Yes and no, as far as the island goes, when Harry tells Eb in Peace Talks he could always go and live on the island. Eb makes the comment about how most of the Council hasn't a clue of what the island is. I think so far only Rashid and Eb know what it really is about, at least in print.
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Per WOJ, the Senior Council know about Demonreach's true nature (come on, they wouldn't be SC if they didn't know big stuff). They just were too afraid individually to claim it as it would give the rest of them a chance to call the person who claimed it a traitor and have them killed. But they also need the firepower apparently that the island represents, and because they assume Harry only claimed it because he seems just so stupid to them, they tolerated him being Warden. Might not anymore...
In any case, Harry isn't OP. Not by a long shot. Yeah, he has a bunch of tools. But that just means he can play in the big boy league. If he isn't on Demonreach, if he is separated from his Arma Christi, if he runs out of magic etc. Yes he has allies, but so do his enemies. Arguably, they have scarier ones. And Kincaid showed that at the end of the day a bullet from over a mile away is effective enough (which fits right into Jim's whole "humans are actually scary because technology" thing...)
Yes, if Harry goes gunning for someone or a group of someones he can be a real terror. But even Ethniu despite all her preparation and weapons and allies was defeated. At the end of the day, there will always be someone uniquely suited to beating Harry. So Harry's best bet isn't to try and take on everyone. Just the ones he can manage. Of course, life isn't always so easy like that...
TheCuriousFan:
--- Quote from: Griffyn612 on October 01, 2020, 07:31:58 PM ---As of now, Harry has, in his possession or access to, the following:
* A prison of gods, demigods, demons, monsters, and other assorted things, which he can (apparently) release and control, in part or in whole, at his whim.
* Access to a dark lay line source that he could potentially tap with preparation for a spell or spells, similar to how the Denarians used it.
* The Sword of Love.
* The Spear of Destiny.
* The Placard of Christ.
* The Shroud of Turin.
* The Crown of Thorns.
* The Eye of Balor.
* Castle Wyvern Dresden.
* The Winter Knight mantle.
* Third+ Generation Wizard bloodline.
* Margaret's Knowledge of Ways.
* Bob 'Marty Stu' the Skull.
* A defacto army of tens of thousands of Little Folk.
He's related to, best friends with, or engaged/married to
* The Blackstaff.
* The Sword of Hope bearer.
* The Sword of Faith bearer.
* The Winter Lady.
* The Winter Queen.
* The (secret) White Queen.
Am I forgetting anything?
Seriously, he's got a ton of crap. That's not even counting his friendly acquaintances (Uriel, Vadderung, Erlking), his middling power-level friends (Thomas, a pack of Werewolves, River), and his potential resource of professional hires (Goodman, Binder, Kincaid).
I feel like at this point, if Harry were to start wearing the Shroud as a cape (to help heal him on the go), he might be unstoppable. And if he were to get the Blackstaff like many speculate, then what could possibly stop him? Other than an iron-rich waterfall?
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He's probably getting tons of magic artifacts because they're much easier to take away as needed for the plot compared to boosts in skill or raw power.
Griffyn612:
--- Quote from: TheCuriousFan on October 02, 2020, 05:16:49 AM ---He's probably getting tons of magic artifacts because they're much easier to take away as needed for the plot compared to boosts in skill or raw power.
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That reminds me, he's got Soulfire too.
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