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WAG: Justin did not just take Harry, Elaine. He was working on Council orders
Mira:
--- Quote ---Not exactly. If I recall correctly, McCoy knew DuMorne was bad news. He may have known all about the theoretical Dark Council plot from that dinner party, and might have informed the Senior Council.
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Well, he did call Justin an SOB, but at the same time, if they knew, why didn't they pull strings to get the kids away from him? As in not allowing the adoption to go through. However to be fair, Justin didn't say anything to Harry or Elaine about the White Council or the Seven Laws. I'd also like to know the full story as to why Elaine has avoided the White Council.
What is odd about this is Harry has always seemed to admire the White Council even though they've treated him like he was radio active for most of his adult life.
Griffyn612:
--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on October 01, 2020, 09:33:09 PM ---You don’t think there was only one conspiracy afoot? The Senior Council may be split between the Black and Grey Councils and each has their agenda all pretty shitty in relation to Harry.
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I don't doubt there are numerous factions with their own agendas on the Senior Council. But Listens and Arthur would seem to be on opposite factions. If Drakul said "bred you" and Harry said "huh?" and Listens said "i don't know", then that's one thing. But he said "we'll tell you later, maybe", which implies he knows. So if it was a sub-plot, it blew up spectacularly, and didn't cost them plotters their positions. Which you think would be the case, especially with them jeopardizing McCoy's grandson without his knowledge.
Mira:
--- Quote from: Griffyn612 on October 01, 2020, 10:41:31 PM ---I don't doubt there are numerous factions with their own agendas on the Senior Council. But Listens and Arthur would seem to be on opposite factions. If Drakul said "bred you" and Harry said "huh?" and Listens said "i don't know", then that's one thing. But he said "we'll tell you later, maybe", which implies he knows. So if it was a sub-plot, it blew up spectacularly, and didn't cost them plotters their positions. Which you think would be the case, especially with them jeopardizing McCoy's grandson without his knowledge.
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I am thinking a simpler answer, if one has a destiny, and supposedly Harry does, and knows the details, one acts differently in order to try and fit the destiny. Thus screwing up whatever that destiny is, so it is best that he doesn't know and finds out about it little by little as he goes along.
KurtinStGeorge:
McCoy may have wanted Harry someplace safe where even Eb himself couldn't find him. Didn't he do the same thing to his own daughter? So it's possible, even likely, that Ebenezer knew that Harry had been disappeared, had thought someone appropriate had been chosen to teach Harry how fulfil his magic potential. He probably didn't know it was Justine DuMorne or if he had known, might not have known that Justin had gone bad.
Mira:
--- Quote from: KurtinStGeorge on October 02, 2020, 01:05:28 AM ---McCoy may have wanted Harry someplace safe where even Eb himself couldn't find him. Didn't he do the same thing to his own daughter? So it's possible, even likely, that Ebenezer knew that Harry had been disappeared, had thought someone appropriate had been chosen to teach Harry how fulfil his magic potential. He probably didn't know it was Justine DuMorne or if he had known, might not have known that Justin had gone bad.
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I don't think Eb is that naive.. Though Justin, a retired Warden, in on the kill of Kemmler would be considered a man of sterling reputation, very suitable as mentor to a young star born. Eb knew how badly he screwed up with Margaret, so he went along with it, and didn't care to look more closely into what really was happening. But there is evidence that Outsiders were pulling strings even back then, because in Ghost Story, Harry is shocked to find out that it wasn't Justine who called up HWWB, though we don't know just who that was, yet.. It could have even been Peabody even that far back manipulating things.
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