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Murphy (BG spoilers) (also some thoughts on the book overall)
TrueMonk:
I have always thought that the series would end with the apocalypse and it would seam strange to collect einherjargen to be ready for it and not use them all when it comes. If all the einherjargen are coming out to fight or would be odd if Harry and Murph did not meet. I think it fair not to state ...unless the apocalypse comes as an exception to every statement :-D
And I would not find someone coming back to fight in the apocalypse making death meaningless in The Dresdenverse
StrayDog:
--- Quote from: magnuskn on October 12, 2020, 07:29:01 AM ---Do we? I mean, again, fiction. We are putting a lot of weight on a short paragraph of words said by Sigrun Gard, without any real contextual explanations, who is an employee of one Mr. Kringle. She's a pretty straight person, but I'm pretty sure that if she had gotten instructions by her boss, she might have not been 100% truthful.
Not even to mention that there are a ton of work-arounds which could be done. Oh, she comes back as a Valkyrie, which is different from being an Einherjar, golly gee wiz. Oh, her being so catholic and being a former Knight of the Cross makes her a special case. It's easy, it just depends if Jim wants her back or not.
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Absolutely YES, all of it!!! I will add, when death isn't final the story starts to suffer because there is no pain. "Just wait a book or two and she'll be back" robs us all of an emotional end to an excellent character.
Mira:
--- Quote from: StrayDog on October 15, 2020, 12:38:09 AM ---Absolutely YES, all of it!!! I will add, when death isn't final the story starts to suffer because there is no pain. "Just wait a book or two and she'll be back" robs us all of an emotional end to an excellent character.
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Yes, and bringing her back somehow cheapens the character. Tis a pet peeve of mine in books, movies, and television shows, the writers do a really outstanding job making an end for the character. Not always death either, just a good end.. But some idiot decides that was such a poetic end, that we need to make a sequel, bring him or her back to somehow enhance the other characters.. It usually doesn't work, I'm thinking of a character they brought back from the dead, Tasha Yar, then killed her off again poetically in an alternate universe "Yesterday's Enterprise." Then decided that because that was such a success, lets bring her back as her half Romunlan daughter because Tasha Yar really did survive the battle that no one in the current timeline even knows happened, and the Tasha Yar of the current timeline died a needless death years before in a run in with an oily alien...
StrayDog:
--- Quote from: TrueMonk on October 14, 2020, 11:38:30 PM ---I have always thought that the series would end with the apocalypse and it would seam strange to collect einherjargen to be ready for it and not use them all when it comes. If all the einherjargen are coming out to fight or would be odd if Harry and Murph did not meet. I think it fair not to state ...unless the apocalypse comes as an exception to every statement :-D
And I would not find someone coming back to fight in the apocalypse making death meaningless in The Dresdenverse
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Bringing an excellent fighter back for the purpose of the apocalypse would probably be fine given that Murph didn't interact with anyone, was seen from a distance but not able to be reached, then disappeared at the end of the battle. Leave the tension in the air, twist the heart some, make the reader scream NNNOOOOOOOO
Mira:
--- Quote from: StrayDog on October 15, 2020, 03:02:41 AM ---Bringing an excellent fighter back for the purpose of the apocalypse would probably be fine given that Murph didn't interact with anyone, was seen from a distance but not able to be reached, then disappeared at the end of the battle. Leave the tension in the air, twist the heart some, make the reader scream NNNOOOOOOOO
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Yeah, real heartbreak for Harry, he comes back to Mac's place, exhausted, wounded in body and mind looking forward to Murphy's arms around him... She's not there, when things got hairy it was impossible to hold her. She was last seen limping down the street towards the Titan with a rocket launcher on her back... Harry rushes back to the area of the Battle of The Bean, and finds her, covered in blood next to a couple of would be tough kids in shock.. They tell Harry how she died protecting them.
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