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Anyone else... disappointed? [PT/BG spoilers]
The_Sibelis:
I actually kinda expected that part with the cover up. It's the 'peace' part. But it's a false peace and come the BAT the storm is going to break loose for real. It fits into the Antichrist timeline I theorized about PTs before. Going by the yearly in story book cycle. It's 3.5 years before the BAT, which biblically is when the false peace fails and literal hell breaks loose.
StrayDog:
Please include me in the Disappointed column. Not sure where to start so I'll just jump in. I love Butters as a character but hate the whole Jedi Knight of the Cross bit. JB has done an incredible job of world building as well as populating his world with robust interesting characters. I've been very happy with everything all the way up to the first fight in front of Michael's house in Skin Game. Here is where my disappointment starts. I don't know why JB decided that Michael and not Murphy had to help Harry in Hades vault. I disagree with the choice but this is his world NOT mine. He could have accomplished the exact same thing without breaking Fidelacchius and without permanently disabling Murphy. I know Murph was on her way out of the series but he should have done it better. More on this in a later rant. On to the Jedi. Butters is fine, the Jedi bit is trite, droll, more vulgar words than can be put here. Every time the Jedi appears in BG it takes me completely out of Dresdenverse. It's like I'm reading DF and suddenly appears Star Wars, not the original Lucas but the nerfed Disney garbage. We're treated to a C grade knock-off with badly dubbed talking when an extra from another set plays through. Coupled with JB's repetitive wordiness and I get the Queen's voice in my head saying, "More matter with less art." Then what was that with the OP Lightsaber ploy while hacking their way to the titan? "Here Butters, here's a pretty light thingy. Just wave it around in front of you, it's all good."
Dina:
I have a question. Do you really like the original SW? I am asking because I've seen a lot of hate towards Butters Jedi knight on this forum and in the internet in general and I wonder if that comes for people who don't like SW, or who loves it too much and feels like Butters bastardize it, or if there is another reason.
I personally love Butters. I was angry at him by his lack of faith in Harry when he was back from the Dead, but after seen him believing in Harry again, being there for him, Butters is again one of my favorites. Sanya too. And I love the jedi saber since the beginning, I think is awesome. Obviously, this is just my preference, but I am trying to see if there is a pattern between the people who have no problems with Butters until he became a Jedi :)
Also, I hope we see Ramirez do a similar journey to Butters. Now he suspects Harry, he will be back to loving him later *crosses fingers*
StrayDog:
--- Quote from: Dina on October 10, 2020, 03:35:58 AM ---I have a question. Do you really like the original SW? I am asking because I've seen a lot of hate towards Butters Jedi knight on this forum and in the internet in general and I wonder if that comes for people who don't like SW, or who loves it too much and feels like Butters bastardize it, or if there is another reason.
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I personally LOVE the original SW. It came out at the height of my most imaginative childhood years where the Apollo program was fresh in our minds, we all were astronauts. That actually doesn't have anything to do with why I dislike Jedi KotC. I believe JB is sincerely trying to pay homage to this same formative time in his life but it doesn't play like he thought/thinks is did/does. Using such an iconic image, for whatever reason, breaks the reader out your (JB's) literary world and plants them firmly back in reality. Brings up memories of their own, sends them wool gathering in their own real world thoughts and outside your book. It becomes the grain of sand stuck to your foot, inside your boot, one a day long hike, in July. NOT enjoying the most beautiful scenery you'll see this summer. That and it makes the Sword way too powerful.
Mira:
--- Quote from: Dina on October 10, 2020, 03:35:58 AM ---I have a question. Do you really like the original SW? I am asking because I've seen a lot of hate towards Butters Jedi knight on this forum and in the internet in general and I wonder if that comes for people who don't like SW, or who loves it too much and feels like Butters bastardize it, or if there is another reason.
I personally love Butters. I was angry at him by his lack of faith in Harry when he was back from the Dead, but after seen him believing in Harry again, being there for him, Butters is again one of my favorites. Sanya too. And I love the jedi saber since the beginning, I think is awesome. Obviously, this is just my preference, but I am trying to see if there is a pattern between the people who have no problems with Butters until he became a Jedi :)
Also, I hope we see Ramirez do a similar journey to Butters. Now he suspects Harry, he will be back to loving him later *crosses fingers*
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I agree with you Dina, I don't mind the Jedi thing, that seems to be a bit tongue in cheek, what I don't understand is why Jim has him sleeping with two women/werewolves at the same time.
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