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Dragen3:
If the Results of One Case of Soulfire and Necromancy being used together is running around Drakul seems most likely but I would not be surprised if that is Kincaid.

If multiple cases are running around that Uber-Ghouls seems most likely.

BrainFireBob:
White Court Vampires.

1) They have the same kind of silvery color that soulfire gives Harry's magic.
2) They're "truly" alive, so if the original was necromancy+Soulfire back to life, it was more "real" than necromancy- which is what Soulfire does
3) They feed on bits of soul/emotion (Soul regrows from emotion), as does their Hunger
4) If their Hunger runs out of "buffered" or "gas tank" or "digested" soul, it goes after their own soul
5) So, posit: The original White Court vampire was someone resurrected by a mix of soulfire/necromancy. They have the trope superhuman abilities of the wakened dead, and super-healing, as if the original resurrection spell is still actively trying to revive them, but their soul is being eaten to feed the process. They have the ability to steal/digest soul from humans to replace this loss and even overfill themselves; they additionally have the magic ability to induce "growth" of extra soul (they can generate intense emotions in their victims) that they can then eat, much like Thomas eating Justine's mania so she can be normal.

Sufficiently powerful feelings in a nascent WC vampire are enough energy to complete/ritually complete the spell, leaving them fully restored.

As a WAG

Yuillegan:
Yeah, White Court certainly have a lot of arguments for them. Except, the Necromancy angle. I just don't feel they have any sort of "returned from the dead" stuff about them.

Hence why Black Court is still my pick. Not sure what that says about Drakul or Dracula. One of them has Soulfire perhaps?

I don't see it being the Uber Ghoul, simply because they arn't weird enough. And again, not enough "raised from the dead" theme.

Thank you, TheCuriousFan for that summation. Plenty of good material in that Q&A!

BrainFireBob:
That's kind of my thinking. I think the progenitor of the White Court was returned from the dead, fully alive.

Ish.

If I'm right, then the Hunger is the still-running resurrection spell, and drawing on their Hunger is simply brutalizing their body- a la the Winter Mantle- and having their Hunger heal it.

SoftManacles4MagiHackers:
he said the results of ONE case are running around commonly throughout the series. so one instance of soulfire. that would rule out Drakul as we just saw him for the first time, and no one said he specifically was getting more active, jus the supernatural realm.

 that would make the case for the white court stronger, but I don't think that is the case either. one case to create an entire species, who recreates. I see them more as a chemical reaction than recreation. a chemical can have a reaction chain, which can be stopped, ie, child falls in love. recreation requires two, and both contribute to the outcome. with the court, all that matters is that one parent is vampire. If it is not the case, I would like to present my own wag. Marva is the case. some theories point at marva being Morgana.
 Many theories say the merlin the most parralels with harry, so he might have had soulfire. some stories of morgana said she was his lover. perhaps merlin resurected her with soulfire, and saw himself do something so terrible, or he ruined a grace he was holding, so he locked himself up on demonreach. Morgana as Marva and the necromancy incident would also fit the specifications jim has. she has appeared in several books, including BattleGround, and was mentioned as active in others. If merlin locked himself up afterwards, he may still not be the British prisoner, as said by Jim. he would undoubtedly consider himself as severely evil, even if he wasn't, and lock himself far away from the entrance anyways. perhaps the most contained area possible. that would also explain how merlin is extremely relevant to the plot, and that's why jim never goes into detail about it, ie the story of the war for humanities memory, which is not relevant, so he can diverge at will.

perhaps he comes back later in the books to undo the spell that created marva. that could also explain marvas white council level abilities. plenty of black court could have had an opportunity to sneak attack and turn white council members. yet her abilities were seen as unheard of by harries allies when he took down her scourge. that could be explained as the act being more real, thus allowing her abilities other Blambires can. Even the wizards they took in battlegrounds were not feared for what they could do as turned, just that they were turned. another wag i have is that blampires have inate talant, like all humans, but it is extremely toned down, since magic is the manipulation of the forces of life/creation. therefore, a Blampire could only have wizard abilities if soulfire countered that in their creation. perhaps in use by a starborn was also a requirement.
 I think we could solve this case easily if we came up with a list of those that have or had soulfire, and known or speculated interests/attachments/allies/connections/events.

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