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It's not all about Harry... (Battle Ground Spoilers)
Mira:
--- Quote from: Pirate101 on October 02, 2020, 06:29:23 AM ---The White Council may figure that they can keep both of them on a very tight leash with the current constellation. A suspended death sentence is a sort of a joke, however. You either go through with it or you find another way to express your displeasure. This makes them look like toothless tigers in the eyes of other supernatural players. They are sort of communicatimg: "We'd like to see the guy dead but we daren't kill him."
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Which says they know they need Harry as Mab said, but their little gold fish bowl isn't suitable for that big a shark. So they are giving them selves plausible deniability, when the shit hits the fan and Harry is in the middle of it. I also wouldn't be shocked if one or more were infected, starting sadly with Carlos. Grief does a lot to a person, true, he lost a lot of friends and had been through a lot from his little tryst with Molly that he hasn't gotten over. However something seemed very off about him in his last conversation with Harry when he told him he was outlawed. It was like he had drunk ever drop of the kool aid and chewed the ice and the cup in came in. Even if Harry had told him everything, what happened still would have happened, Harry isn't responsible for any of that.
Griffyn612:
--- Quote from: TheCuriousFan on October 02, 2020, 06:00:09 AM ---Intentionally and unintentionally are two different things after all.
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Sure, but can you imagine their logic be explained to Harry? And him being like, he killed me that night! And Carlos being like, oh.
Pirate101:
--- Quote from: Mira on October 02, 2020, 01:47:03 PM ---...I also wouldn't be shocked if one or more were infected, starting sadly with Carlos. Grief does a lot to a person, true, he lost a lot of friends and had been through a lot from his little tryst with Molly that he hasn't gotten over. However something seemed very off about him in his last conversation with Harry when he told him he was outlawed. It was like he had drunk ever drop of the kool aid and chewed the ice and the cup in came in. Even if Harry had told him everything, what happened still would have happened, Harry isn't responsible for any of that.
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I don't think Carlos is Nemfected atm. He was probably being played by the people who wanted to get rid of Harry to some extent, but I'm afraid that the groundwork for that has been laid some time ago. Harry really wasn't a very good friend to him. He had lied to him on several occasions before, not told him things, not treated him as an equal. Harry always had his reasons, but the fact remains that it was obvious to Carlos that Harry did not trust him completely. And then Molly in Cold Case happened.
From Carlos' pov, it sadly is understandable that he feels betrayed and doesn't trust Harry any more. Former friends can turn into very bitter enemies. This can turn very ugly yet.
Mira:
--- Quote from: Pirate101 on October 03, 2020, 08:42:39 AM ---I don't think Carlos is Nemfected atm. He was probably being played by the people who wanted to get rid of Harry to some extent, but I'm afraid that the groundwork for that has been laid some time ago. Harry really wasn't a very good friend to him. He had lied to him on several occasions before, not told him things, not treated him as an equal. Harry always had his reasons, but the fact remains that it was obvious to Carlos that Harry did not trust him completely. And then Molly in Cold Case happened.
From Carlos' pov, it sadly is understandable that he feels betrayed and doesn't trust Harry any more. Former friends can turn into very bitter enemies. This can turn very ugly yet.
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Or Harry was deluding himself about Carlos the whole time. Eb did warn him that someone he thought was a friend would stab him in the back. Someone testified to the Council that Harry broke the First Law when he killed a couple of Turtlenecks with magic. Could have been Christos, but I bet it was Carlos. He was pushing too hard for information from Harry from the beginning of Peace Talks. Friends don't do that, they may ask, but not push like he did. I still think what happened with Molly has colored his whole outlook. Most likely he blames that on Harry because she was his apprentice. Blaming Harry for Drakul and the Black Court showing up? For the sixty thousand that died? That is someone very hurt and off the rails.
TheCuriousFan:
--- Quote from: Mira on October 03, 2020, 11:58:58 AM ---Or Harry was deluding himself about Carlos the whole time. Eb did warn him that someone he thought was a friend would stab him in the back. Someone testified to the Council that Harry broke the First Law when he killed a couple of Turtlenecks with magic. Could have been Christos, but I bet it was Carlos. He was pushing too hard for information from Harry from the beginning of Peace Talks. Friends don't do that, they may ask, but not push like he did. I still think what happened with Molly has colored his whole outlook. Most likely he blames that on Harry because she was his apprentice. Blaming Harry for Drakul and the Black Court showing up? For the sixty thousand that died? That is someone very hurt and off the rails.
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He wouldn't have kept giving Harry chances to talk and trusting him if he was against Harry from the start. He's genuinely worried for Harry by the looks of it combined with some trauma about Winter.
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