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Elaine: Spoilerific Fun
Griffyn612:
--- Quote from: Mira on October 02, 2020, 01:33:29 PM ---Yeah, I believe she was infected as far back as Grave Peril. That is when her mental health seemed to be stabilizing which was attributed to the light feeding Thomas was doing on her. Then at the end of Blood Rites she almost died to save Thomas, but as soon as she recovered she became Lara's secretary and confidant, she was also spying supposedly for Harry. But one has to wonder, who else got the information and was she selective in the feeding of it.
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That doesn't track with what Maeve says in Cold Days on Demonreach.
--- Quote --- Justine made a quiet sound and went to Mac's side.
Maeve's eyes fastened on her. "And the vampire's crumpet. Luscious little thing, aren't you? And so close to Lady Raith. You and I are going to have a long talk after this, darling. I just know you're going to start to see things my way."
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It sounds like Maeve and Beside are picking their next target right then and there. She's not talking like Justine is already infected.
Bad Alias:
--- Quote from: Psyklone on October 01, 2020, 09:59:24 AM ---Now that Harry has implied he's going to beef up the paranet in his Castle, this would be a prime opportunity to have Elaine play an active role. Is she good, self interested, or nemesis? ;D
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Especially since he's been outlawed and is engaged to someone he has no interest in being married to.
I've always shipped Elaine, but I've also always thought her being one of the key players behind everything (or at least a lot of it) really fits.
--- Quote from: huangjimmy108 on October 01, 2020, 11:37:42 AM ---I peg Elaine to be Murphy's role replacement, assuming Harry still need a default partner in crime during the series.
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But why would she abandon LA? She hears about Harry being kicked out of the Council. Furious, she confronts Carlos over his betrayal of Harry and outs herself as a wizard level talent, either on purpose or accident. She has to flee to Chicago to join Harry's Grey Council. What Harry said about the Council fits with what Elaine has always said about how she views the Council as domineering.
Pirate101:
--- Quote from: Griffyn612 on October 02, 2020, 09:22:43 PM ---That doesn't track with what Maeve says in Cold Days on Demonreach.
It sounds like Maeve and Beside are picking their next target right then and there. She's not talking like Justine is already infected.
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We have to re-evaluate Justine's actions ever since White Night at least. I re-read Even Hand yesterday and it totally makes sense if you assume that Nemesis made her involve Marcone in the first place. She got to check him out. Marcone was in possession of Namshiel's coin, who is probably the Nemfected Fallen. If Marcone had lost, the coin would have been available again, maybe for her to retrieve it and look for a suitable host. In case he won, as he did, a minor Fomor lord was lost, but Marcone would have been motivated to pick up the coin himself. I suppose that is what happened. At some point after Even Hand he decided that he needed a power-up very badly.
Cold Days is tricky. I always found it odd that Thomas insisted on taking her along in the first place. She would have been much safer at Castle Raith ...
At the show- down, she neither helped Maeve nor team Harry. She just observed. As usual imo. Was she there to make sure that Maeve was not doing anything stupid? As Maeve then did?
Basil:
--- Quote from: Pirate101 on October 03, 2020, 08:27:10 AM ---Cold Days is tricky. I always found it odd that Thomas insisted on taking her along in the first place. She would have been much safer at Castle Raith ...
At the show- down, she neither helped Maeve nor team Harry. She just observed. As usual imo. Was she there to make sure that Maeve was not doing anything stupid? As Maeve then did?
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So, Justine's presence on the Island in Cold Days now makes a GREAT deal of sense. She was Maeve's "insurance policy." Maeve said something to the effect that you can't kill me because my mantle will go to some ally of mine (i.e. Nemesis). That ally was standing right there -- Justine. Little did Nemesis/Maeve/Justine understand that a much better vessel Molly was also right there.
ClintACK:
--- Quote from: Basil on October 09, 2020, 12:47:52 AM ---So, Justine's presence on the Island in Cold Days now makes a GREAT deal of sense. She was Maeve's "insurance policy." Maeve said something to the effect that you can't kill me because my mantle will go to some ally of mine (i.e. Nemesis). That ally was standing right there -- Justine. Little did Nemesis/Maeve/Justine understand that a much better vessel Molly was also right there.
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Love it.
These little discoveries about things that were going on in the background in previous books are great fun.
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