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Battle Ground spoilers: Harry’s pairing. What do you think?
Arjan:
--- Quote from: Griffyn612 on October 01, 2020, 08:01:16 PM ---I don't think Mab and Merlin necessarily had a physical relationship. She could have been a member of Camelot or Merlin's inner circle of wizards, and he cast her out. I could easily see it being like Harry/Molly, where Mab was in love with Merlin but he kept her at a distance.
I can't see him keeping Thomas locked up past the wedding. He's going to want him there for it, as will she. My guess is that we might get two more plots before the wedding. Wouldn't surprise me if we get Mirror Mirror and the Wrestling Book within the year of the engagement, and then book #20 is the wedding.
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But that was not the point. The point is that he is not unconsciously letting his guard down, he is unconsciously guarding himself.
Or maybe he is doing both. That can get complicated.
Griffyn612:
--- Quote from: Arjan on October 01, 2020, 08:46:51 PM ---But that was not the point. The point is that he is not unconsciously letting his guard down, he is unconsciously guarding himself.
Or maybe he is doing both. That can get complicated.
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I don't think he can turn it on or off, consciously or unconsciously. It's a force field around him, or a rose, or a ring, all the time. The only thing that changes is the hunger in the Wamp, which is on or off. If the hunger is off, then contact can be made, like between him and Thomas, or him and Lara in White Night. Only if the Wamp's hunger is always on, like Madeline's in Turn Coat, is the protection a threat to the Wamp.
--- Quote --- "The White Court only get burned when they try to feed on someone touched by true love, right?"
"It isn't as simple as that," Thomas said quietly. "It's got to do with how much control the hunger has over you when you touch."
I grunted. "But when they feed, the hunger's in control."
Thomas nodded slowly.
"So why'd Madeline try to feed on Justine? She had to know it would hurt her."
"Same reason I do," Thomas said. "She can't help it. It's reflex."
I frowned. "I don't get it."
He was quiet long enough to make me think he wasn't going to say anything, before he finally spoke. "Justine and I were together for years. And she ... means a lot to me. When I'm near her, I can't think about anything else but her. And when I touch her, everything in me wants to be nearer to her."
"Including your hunger," I said quietly.
He nodded. "We agree on that point, my demon and I. So I can't touch Justine without it being... close to the surface, I suppose you could call it."
"And it gets burned," I said.
He nodded. "Madeline is the other end of the spectrum. She thinks she should get to feed on anyone she wants, anywhere, anytime. She doesn't see other people. She just sees food. Her hunger controls her completely." He smiled a bitter little smile. "So for her it's reflex, just like for me."
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This suggests that Lara is either walking around always on, with no control over her hunger, or she's so attracted to Harry that she can't help but be attracted to him, and the hunger feels it too.
Rigil Kent:
--- Quote from: Griffyn612 on October 01, 2020, 09:40:00 PM ---This suggests that Lara is either walking around always on, with no control over her hunger, or she's so attracted to Harry that she can't help but be attracted to him, and the hunger feels it too.
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The former doesn't track with her established character as she's generally always "in control."
BrainFireBob:
--- Quote from: Griffyn612 on October 01, 2020, 09:40:00 PM ---I don't think he can turn it on or off, consciously or unconsciously. It's a force field around him, or a rose, or a ring, all the time. The only thing that changes is the hunger in the Wamp, which is on or off. If the hunger is off, then contact can be made, like between him and Thomas, or him and Lara in White Night. Only if the Wamp's hunger is always on, like Madeline's in Turn Coat, is the protection a threat to the Wamp.
This suggests that Lara is either walking around always on, with no control over her hunger, or she's so attracted to Harry that she can't help but be attracted to him, and the hunger feels it too.
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He told her no, more than once- and he's obviously attracted to her, so it's not that she's lost it.
To a certain kind of woman, that's irresistible. It's the only kind of woman Butcher seems to write- Mab feels that way about him as Winter Knight over his defiance.
Arjan:
--- Quote from: Griffyn612 on October 01, 2020, 09:40:00 PM ---I don't think he can turn it on or off, consciously or unconsciously. It's a force field around him, or a rose, or a ring, all the time. The only thing that changes is the hunger in the Wamp, which is on or off. If the hunger is off, then contact can be made, like between him and Thomas, or him and Lara in White Night. Only if the Wamp's hunger is always on, like Madeline's in Turn Coat, is the protection a threat to the Wamp.
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I was not talking about the true love protection.
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