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Griffyn612:

--- Quote from: Mira on October 01, 2020, 12:18:14 PM ---
  You are naming archangels, none of them are retired.

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I think the only thing we know canonically about them, or at least Raphael, is what Mab says in Small Favor.

--- Quote ---The Demon Binder takes tasks upon his own shoulders and solves his problems with his own hands.

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The lack of the use of a name for him (as well as the others) leaves the door open for her to be referring to the Grace and its current bearer rather than Raphael. It'd be very Mab of her to not care that it's a different entity, as the Mantle/Grace fulfilling its role would be the important thing to her.

As for the Grigori, I thought there was one that taught humanity about fermentation and whatnot.  I think others have mentioned him as a candidate before, but I can't remember the name.  I'll have to look. 

Mira:

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As for the Grigori, I thought there was one that taught humanity about fermentation and whatnot.  I think others have mentioned him as a candidate before, but I can't remember the name.  I'll have to look. 
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That would fit Mac, and supposedly the watcher angel's sin was they fell in love with and married a mortal woman.  Could see that also with Mac, since in every way he seems like a good person or former angel.

Bad Alias:

--- Quote from: Griffyn612 on October 01, 2020, 02:34:07 PM ---I think the only thing we know canonically about them, or at least Raphael, is what Mab says in Small Favor.

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We also know that Rafael or one of his lieutenants did the wards on the safe room in the Carpenter house.

Mira:

--- Quote from: Bad Alias on October 02, 2020, 06:30:10 PM ---We also know that Rafael or one of his lieutenants did the wards on the safe room in the Carpenter house.

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Except Rafael isn't a watcher angel, he is an archangel, that is when he isn't painting.. ::)

Griffyn612:

--- Quote from: Bad Alias on October 02, 2020, 06:30:10 PM ---We also know that Rafael or one of his lieutenants did the wards on the safe room in the Carpenter house.

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Yup. It'd have to be a lieutenant for the theory.  At least there's a window of potential.


--- Quote from: Mira on October 02, 2020, 07:18:22 PM ---Except Rafael isn't a watcher angel, he is an archangel, that is when he isn't painting.. ::)

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Rafael isn't a Watcher angel, but he's heavily involved in their story.  He appears in the Book of Enoch as the one to imprison Azazel the fallen Grigori in Dudael, the earthen prison.  And if he did give up his Grace, and he's stuck powerless, then he's just as stuck on Earth as the other Grigori that were cursed to walk the earth until the end times.


--- Quote from: Yuillegan on October 01, 2020, 11:19:08 AM ---I agree Rafael would have made more sense (note, for some reason Jim uses that spelling not your spelling - I have no idea why). 

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Looking at the info, the root 'rafa' means 'to tie', which comes up in the analysis of why he was chosen to imprison Azazel.  And Raphael/Rafael in the series is the demon binding angel, so...

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