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HUGE BATTLE GROUND SPOILERS - (Un)Answered questions
Conspiracy Theorist:
--- Quote from: riff.freelance on September 30, 2020, 04:09:02 PM ---My personal take on Marcone/Namshiel:
Marcone is not a simple host to be "overpowered" and ridden like a car. He is a stronger host more like a horse, he could be "broken" or worked alongside as long as the destination is generally the same. Personally, I think that this will kinda slow burn in the background as Harry and Marcone have to interact and get a bit of a "bro-mance" almost friendly relationship. Then redemption equals death; Marcone will lay down the Coin over loosing control... only to die for the lack of power. I don't know... All I can say for sure is that Harry and Marcone will have to work together more, and somehow we will feel loss over Marcone.
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Nope he is a tiger, and probably a type of host Namshiel has never encountered.
vultur:
--- Quote from: morriswalters on September 30, 2020, 12:40:58 PM ---What is odd is that Namshiel and thus Marcone can use magic. Especially since no other Fallen uses magic unless their host is a wizard.
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I think it's a matter of preferences/approach, not limited ability.
We know that it's technically possible for "regular people" to learn magic, but without the Sight it's compared to a blind person learning to paint. With a Fallen's knowledge, that can probably be overcome.
But it's probably a lot quicker/easier to turn into a giant monster Ursiel/Magog style, especially for someone who already knows how to fight.
And Harry calls Namshiel "Master of Sorcery". His preferences likely make that something he would offer early on (bring it up even if the host doesn't know it's possible) - not so for Ursiel or Magog.
BrainFireBob:
Namshiel can probably provide the Sight
riff.freelance:
--- Quote from: vultur on September 30, 2020, 07:12:00 PM ---I think it's a matter of preferences/approach, not limited ability.
We know that it's technically possible for "regular people" to learn magic, but without the Sight it's compared to a blind person learning to paint. With a Fallen's knowledge, that can probably be overcome.
But it's probably a lot quicker/easier to turn into a giant monster Ursiel/Magog style, especially for someone who already knows how to fight.
And Harry calls Namshiel "Master of Sorcery". His preferences likely make that something he would offer early on (bring it up even if the host doesn't know it's possible) - not so for Ursiel or Magog.
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And we've seen what even a modest talent can get up to with the proper supervision: Butters and Bob. I personally think that if the fallen really wanted to they could get wizard level ability out of anyone they chose to co-pilot... with the proper effort. Effort some don't choose to expend.
dylanfa:
I think people are wrong to assume Harry won't use the Eye. He will, but the point of Mab's love/hate vs. reason wasn't the reason it part - it was to provide a hint that while the Eye has traditionally been powered by intense hate, Harry will find some way to do something with it fueled by "The Power of Love(tm)."
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