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Rudolph: Battlegrounds Heavy Spoilers
bigdangmoose:
--- Quote from: ntribley on October 01, 2020, 03:40:37 AM ---I do think we will see Murphy again- in the BAT. If the BAT actually is the equivalent if Ragnorak, wouldn’t that mean that ALL the Einherjarin join with Odin in that final battle? Also, we may see an alternate Murphy in Mirror Mirror.
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Again,
--- Quote from: bigdangmoose on September 30, 2020, 11:44:42 PM ---Gard said it. They don't become one until no one else remembers them. They are at rest now. Serve later
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It is against the rules for Odin to take them out of their vacation too early. But we may see her if he needs to break the rules in the BAT.
And I agree we will see her in MM.
forumghost:
--- Quote from: bigdangmoose on October 01, 2020, 11:00:24 AM ---Again,
It is against the rules for Odin to take them out of their vacation too early. But we may see her if he needs to break the rules in the BAT.
And I agree we will see her in MM.
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Gard doesn't say it's against the rules. She says he can't, that it's beyond his power. I don't see much point in that scene if it wasn't Jim telling us that Murphy is retired from now on.
That said, I agree that MM is going to be quite a trip, and Jim is going to be showing us a bunch of Characters that have died again, as well as a bunch of live characters being dead.
I'm predicting we'll see Rampire Susan and Dark/Evil Murphy at the least, probably dead Michael, basically everything gone to hell.
Though on the bright side Harry will probably figure out some key info that will save his own reality, because the bad guys won't be hiding any more, they'll be right out in the open.
Bad Alias:
On the will Harry see Murphy again debate: Wizards are often considered to not be mortals, so there's a chance there. I don't think that would be within the time covered by the series. The other thing is that there's always an exception somewhere. I wouldn't be surprised if the BAT is that exception where all the Einherjarin come out to die one last time. That way Jim gets to kill Murphy twice.
Arjan:
--- Quote from: Bad Alias on October 02, 2020, 06:19:20 PM ---On the will Harry see Murphy again debate: Wizards are often considered to not be mortals, so there's a chance there. I don't think that would be within the time covered by the series. The other thing is that there's always an exception somewhere. I wouldn't be surprised if the BAT is that exception where all the Einherjarin come out to die one last time. That way Jim gets to kill Murphy twice.
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But that is the nice thing about being an einherjar. After they kill her she can start partying and the next day Jim can kill her again and again.
Dina:
Murph won't be back because Mab, Harry, Molly, Lara, Thomas remember her. All long living people. And even if some of them fall soon, not all of them will. Also, Gard herself remembers her.
Of course, we could see a ghost (thanks to Morty? Liberty?) and I agree about her appearing in MM.
I actually dislike this afterlife for Murph, as she was a catholic. Her place is in Heaven, with her family.
On topic: I don't think Rudolph will go to jail. He may end in a psychiatric but I suspect he is still a threat. But I hope Kinkaid ends him with extreme prejudice.
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