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morriswalters:
Murphy was killed by Snake Boys curse.
--- Quote ---“Do you know why I wanted Murph to stay out of the fight?” I asked. “Because you’d given up on her,” Michael said. “No, it was because I’d given up on . . . Oh, yes.” I cleared my throat. “On some level, I had written her off. I knew I was going to be out there without her watching my back.” Die alone, whispered a voice in my memory.

Butcher, Jim. Battle Ground (Dresden Files) (p. 370). Penguin Publishing Group. Kindle Edition.
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Snake Boy is looking at you next Lara, run, run! ;) 

I still say he should have frozen the jerk and given him to Mab for her garden.

Arjan:

--- Quote from: Mira on September 30, 2020, 12:18:12 PM ---No, remember when Harry said that, Gard said she wouldn't return until all mortal memory of her is gone, and added that she deserves her rest.  I cannot see her returning even in a spin off, because anyone associated with Harry would know and remember Murphy if only by what Harry has told them.  She is also in print, so no, I doubt seriously if she returns.

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Gard is also in print under her old name. I think history books and sagas are not included, just people remembering her.

And Harry won’t stay mortal, there is too much foreshadowing for it.

Mira:

--- Quote from: Arjan on September 30, 2020, 03:29:42 PM ---Gard is also in print under her old name. I think history books and sagas are not included, just people remembering her.

And Harry won’t stay mortal, there is too much foreshadowing for it.

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But Gard is a Valkyrie, she never was mortal, not the same as Murphy at all. 

BrainFireBob:
Where is that stated?

Gard solicited Murphy to join the Valkyries. This tells us they can recruit.

Gard had a nasty experience with a Grendelkin that a Valkyrie should not have been vulnerable to, implies former mortality.

Mira:

--- Quote from: BrainFireBob on September 30, 2020, 03:47:20 PM ---Where is that stated?

Gard solicited Murphy to join the Valkyries. This tells us they can recruit.

Gard had a nasty experience with a Grendelkin that a Valkyrie should not have been vulnerable to, implies former mortality.

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No, I believe it was explained, much like the elves in LotR immortal doesn't mean you cannot be killed.  The Vakyrie are the daughters of Odin.. She said her family had a history with Grendelkin, she has sisters daughters of Odin, so what happened way back when, is a history of events between them.

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