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BrainFireBob:

--- Quote from: Mira on September 24, 2020, 04:54:16 PM ---Is he though?  And that wouldn't necessarily mean just because he is a wizard he can or would control the Mantel.

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I have absolutely no idea what you are responding to with the second half of that. I simply noted he may be the first wizard knight as a possibility. Mab would be excited to see the new features of the mantle.

Mira:

--- Quote from: BrainFireBob on September 25, 2020, 07:27:46 PM ---I have absolutely no idea what you are responding to with the second half of that. I simply noted he may be the first wizard knight as a possibility. Mab would be excited to see the new features of the mantle.

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All I am saying is since we don't have a list of all the Winter Knights, we don't know if there were any other wizard Knights.  I am not sure if it is that or the fact that Harry has a strong will, isn't dumb, had the advantage of seeing what happens when the Knight cannot control his mantle or gives into it's temptations. What he figured out was long hard exercise counteracted the adrenaline testosterone rush from the mantle that triggered overly violent reactions to stimuli.  He still has a ways to go as far as being self aware of his body, important because the mantel numbs pain. 

Bad Alias:

--- Quote from: Mira on September 23, 2020, 11:25:07 PM ---Then you have homicide investigate..  Harry and Murphy are civilians.  IA is for in house investigations pertaining to police misconduct, plus one of the investigating officers doesn't even know why they are there.

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I'm still trying to figure out what this has to do with my point. I'm not saying that IA should be investigating. IA is investigating. The investigation was directed there through legitimate channels, otherwise Bradley wouldn't be there. That IA is investigating lets us know that it's corrupt motives. Bradley let's us know it's a real investigation with potentially real consequences.


--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on September 24, 2020, 12:40:14 AM ---The problem with getting a criminal lawyer au fait with the supernatural world is that they are all Whamps, and Malvora and Skavi’s to boot. ...

Diamonds from what crime? ...

Why would the Government take them?

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Mab's a lawyer. Her rates are probably too high. Harry knows for a fact that there is at least one human lawyer in Chicago familiar with criminal law and at least the existence of the supernatural. Unfortunately, she's a judge.

Any of the crimes I've listed.

I've got three words for you, civil asset forfeiture.


--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on September 24, 2020, 12:40:14 AM ---the Government wouldshould scratch their head and conclude they are heirlooms.
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Kinda normative vs. descriptive.

forumghost:
I know that this is probably too good of a thing for Harry and Murph to be the actual reason... but what if it's been handed off to IA because the real IA investigation is into Rudolph, who is at this stage quite obviously dirty, and they're using this investigation to give him the rope needed to hang himself.

morriswalters:
Harry committed 2 crimes, at least in Chicago.  Breaking and entering and felony murder.  Harry and everybody involved in the robbery. The accountant is the least of their worries. When the guard was killed, their fate was sealed, if the police connect the dots.
--- Quote ---“A person who kills an individual without lawful justification commits first degree murder if, in performing the acts which cause the death…he or she is attempting or committing a forcible felony other than second degree murder.” – 720 ILCS 5/9-1(a)(3)
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Murphy wasn't at the robbery and so committed no crime, she was in a  hospital.  Neither can they place her at the scene when the accountant was killed, because again, she wasn't there.
--- Quote ---“Grey, Deirdre, and Dresden will run this particular errand,” he said, “while the rest of us busy ourselves here.”

Butcher, Jim. Skin Game: A Novel of the Dresden Files (p. 113). Penguin Publishing Group. Kindle Edition.
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So unless you can be criminally charged for being maimed, f**k IA! No DNA for Murphy at either location either since, well, she wasn't there to leave it.

Having the diamonds isn't a crime, since they weren't stolen in this Universe.  And to confiscate them they would first need to know about them.  Harry has a vault supreme and it would be a slick piece of writing to have Rudy obtain a search warrant on Demonreach since first, it isn't on any map and second it isn't in Chicago.  Murphy could bury them in her garden or her underwear drawer. Since the cops can't possibly have a robbery report from Hades, exactly what would the search warrant be for?

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