The Dresden Files > DF Spoilers
"Stars and Stones..."
forumghost:
--- Quote from: Mira on September 18, 2020, 08:31:21 AM ---
Harry says that a lot as we all know... But in Peace Talks, Eb says on page 31 when Harry says it
So what could it mean? Why didn't Eb ever teach Harry what it meant? And why is Eb so uptight?
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Harry doesn't know, but it's actually a low-key Tolkien reference. "seven stars and seven stones and one white tree" Eb just doesn't want all his Wizard friends to find out that he's actually a giant nerd.
vultur:
--- Quote from: ClintACK on September 18, 2020, 01:36:25 PM ---It always makes me think of Stonehenge, and the idea that it was meant to be a kind of calendar when certain stars line up with certain stones and such.
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I think it's either this (with reference to Conjunctions) or an Outsiders thing. In the Lovecraft story "At the Mountains of Madness" the Antarctic Old Ones (enemies of Cthulhu) left behind these five-pointed star stone things, which later Cthulhu Mythos authors made into weapons against Cthulhu-type entities.
Conspiracy Theorist:
--- Quote from: forumghost on September 19, 2020, 05:13:53 AM ---Harry doesn't know, but it's actually a low-key Tolkien reference. "seven stars and seven stones and one white tree" Eb just doesn't want all his Wizard friends to find out that he's actually a giant nerd.
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Not bad, Jim has retrofitted third party fiction into the Dresden files several times, the Bothers Grimm and their attempt to take down the Faerie Courts, Bram Stoker and the take down of the Black Court, and most recently the Lovecraft Mythos and Corner Hounds, so why not JRR.Tolkein?. I wonder if Eb met Tolkein during the First World War when pursuing Kemmler? If so did he inspire Gandalf? And Kemmler Saruman?
We know Kemmler started WW1 and Eb was the Blackstaff even then, so not impossible.
Eb would definitely be embarrassed if it came out he was the inspiration for Gandalf. Harry would love it, and tease Eb about it endlessly.
Mira:
However if it is a Tolkien reference wouldn't Harry get it? We know he has at least a copy of "The Two Towers."
Conspiracy Theorist:
The is the trench song “The Bells of Hell Go Ting a Ling a Ling” was current from 1911 onwards it was feature in “Oh, What a Lovely War” and from Wikipedia
“A 1966 Mirisch Productions World War I war film with the title The Bells of Hell go Ting-a-ling-a-ling starring Gregory Peck and Ian McKellen, directed by David Miller and with a screenplay by Roald Dahl, was abandoned after five weeks filming in Switzerland.[4] The film, depicting the air raid on the Zeppelin base at Friedrichshafen, was abandoned after early snow in the Alps.[5]”
Bloody Gandalf no less, before he became Gandalf, truth can sometimes be stranger than fiction
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