The Dresden Files > DF Spoilers
Jury Duty and the Peace Talks
ClintACK:
--- Quote from: Arjan on September 21, 2020, 09:11:57 PM ---So what? Very few evil people see themselves as evil.
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Interestingly Goodman Grey (click to show/hide)does see himself as evil -- the "greater" evil even. Which makes him seem less evil.
Snark Knight:
--- Quote from: Arjan on September 21, 2020, 09:11:57 PM ---Cure, punish or destroy, that would be the question.
Not let them kill humans because they can not help it.
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If the masquerade falls entirely, it's gonna be a bad day for Malvora (who usually kill) and Skavis (who must).
Raith doesn't have to kill though. Even at his lowest and most inhuman point, Thomas was saying it's unnecessary, and wanted to promote "more responsible" nonlethal feeding from within the House political system. They can easily survive on "small bites" spread out enough not to do irrecoverable harm to anyone, and going public would leave them even less short of willing partners.
Arjan:
--- Quote from: Snark Knight on September 22, 2020, 04:19:49 AM ---If the masquerade falls entirely, it's gonna be a bad day for Malvora (who usually kill) and Skavis (who must).
Raith doesn't have to kill though. Even at his lowest and most inhuman point, Thomas was saying it's unnecessary, and wanted to promote "more responsible" nonlethal feeding from within the House political system. They can easily survive on "small bites" spread out enough not to do irrecoverable harm to anyone, and going public would leave them even less short of willing partners.
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They have to rape. And they have to kill a human to become one.
CrusherJen:
Um, no, they don't. Thomas survived as a hairdresser, taking small bites of energy as he styled his clients' hair, and they weren't harmed by it. (In fact, they enjoyed it. So it's not too absurd to think that people would volunteer for such an experience, if it was ensured that they wouldn't die in the process.)
And it's been established that White vamps are born with their demon, and their first feeding doesn't have to be lethal. (Although if Irwin Pounder hadn't been the scion of a Bigfoot, he might not have survived his encounter with Connie, so that may be an exception.) If a young White vamp's first sexual experience is based in True Love, there's a chance their demon will die, and they become human, as Inara Raith hopefully did. It's the Reds who must kill to become a fully-fledged vampire, not the Whites.
Arjan:
--- Quote from: CrusherJen on September 22, 2020, 06:39:08 AM ---Um, no, they don't. Thomas survived as a hairdresser, taking small bites of energy as he styled his clients' hair, and they weren't harmed by it. (In fact, they enjoyed it. So it's not too absurd to think that people would volunteer for such an experience, if it was ensured that they wouldn't die in the process.)
And it's been established that White vamps are born with their demon, and their first feeding doesn't have to be lethal. (Although if Irwin Pounder hadn't been the scion of a Bigfoot, he might not have survived his encounter with Connie, so that may be an exception.) If a young White vamp's first sexual experience is based in True Love, there's a chance their demon will die, and they become human, as Inara Raith hopefully did. It's the Reds who must kill to become a fully-fledged vampire, not the Whites.
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Only under very special circumstances that are not easily repeatable.
The hairdresser thing is still highly dubious, stealing life energy and mentally manipulating for your cattle to come back all the time and I do not think it would be a long term solution for most white court vampires, Thomas could not keep it up and he was motivated.
The exceptions are simply not apliccable on a large enough scale but they do point to the white court being evil.
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