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Do the Wardens have any 'heavy hitters' left? [Some PT Spoilers]
Mira:
--- Quote from: Snark Knight on September 12, 2020, 11:12:00 PM ---Her narrow beam fire attacks are a lot more efficient for putting down a lot of Fomor grunts quickly by sweeping through a crowd than Harry generating massive plumes of fire.
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But he doesn't have to do that anymore. However, there is a variety of "Fomor grunts," they are not all turtlenecks, some are really huge and it is going to take KABOOM to bring them down.
vultur:
--- Quote from: Snark Knight on September 12, 2020, 11:12:00 PM ---Her narrow beam fire attacks are a lot more efficient for putting down a lot of Fomor grunts quickly by sweeping through a crowd than Harry generating massive plumes of fire.
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Oh, Luccio would still be more efficient - but in this situation, probably not enough to make up for Harry's power advantage... which is a lot larger than it used to be (not only Luccio's loss of power, but Harry's ability to draw on Winter).
Harry hates to have to use Winter, but when he really needs to, his power is probably far beyond what a normal wizard could match. Raising the warehouse with ice in CD was really incredibly impressive when I looked at the volume that would need.
I don't think it would make him a match for Eb or the Merlin (who are both at the top end of power and skill) but post-bodyswap Luccio, sure.
Harry's so averse to using it that we don't see very much of what the Mantle can really do for him, but when we do, it's quite impressive.
KurtinStGeorge:
About Murphy and the AT-4. Not loaded it weighs just under 15 lbs. It is recoilless; so no kick but she would probably still feel it when she fired it. Just the vibration caused the firing an AT-4 could probably be very painful for someone with an injured shoulder, but it's a one shot weapon so she would only have to do it once. Unless Murphy was firing the AT-4C, she sure wouldn't want a wall or any other obstruction directly behind her. That vented gas is dangerous to anyone directly behind the weapon and a wall would force the vented gas right back at her, ouch!.
Fun fact: It's legal to own a rocket launcher in the U.S. Though the AT-4 round isn't actually a rocket, but I digress. However, the AT-4 tube is labelled as a hazardous material, or it contains hazardous materials. It's not something you'd want lying around the house.
I guessing with an adrenaline rush Murphy could probably manage to lift the thing once; plus, I believe only one of her shoulders was injured so she could probably manage it one way or another. Murphy's main problem is that she has no mobility. She can't shoot and scoot. So, being on top of Marcone's fortress is a reasonable place for her to be; being out in the street, not so much.
Her first problem would be getting to a fight. Murphy would probably have to be driven there unless Harry opened up a way that physically was only a few feet away even if it took her several miles away from her starting point. She'd still have to lug the AT-4 around. It makes far more sense for Murphy to driven somewhere, get dropped off and set up on the exact point on the sidewalk where she was dropped. Again, she has no options if Fomor aren't stopped dead in their tracks because she can't fall back at anything faster than a slow walk. At least she wouldn't have to lug the AT-4 around with her seeing as it's a one and done weapon.
Mira:
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Her first problem would be getting to a fight. Murphy would probably have to be driven there unless Harry opened up a way that physically was only a few feet away even if it took her several miles away from her starting point. She'd still have to lug the AT-4 around. It makes far more sense for Murphy to driven somewhere, get dropped off and set up on the exact point on the sidewalk where she was dropped. Again, she has no options if Fomor aren't stopped dead in their tracks because she can't fall back at anything faster than a slow walk. At least she wouldn't have to lug the AT-4 around with her seeing as it's a one and done weapon.
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Well, the trailer also shows her on a motorcycle, Harry sitting behind, so I guess that is how, but no sign of the weapon.
Conspiracy Theorist:
--- Quote from: vultur on September 13, 2020, 12:20:20 AM ---Oh, Luccio would still be more efficient - but in this situation, probably not enough to make up for Harry's power advantage... which is a lot larger than it used to be (not only Luccio's loss of power, but Harry's ability to draw on Winter).
Harry hates to have to use Winter, but when he really needs to, his power is probably far beyond what a normal wizard could match. Raising the warehouse with ice in CD was really incredibly impressive when I looked at the volume that would need.
I don't think it would make him a match for Eb or the Merlin (who are both at the top end of power and skill) but post-bodyswap Luccio, sure.
Harry's so averse to using it that we don't see very much of what the Mantle can really do for him, but when we do, it's quite impressive.
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Look at the trailer when Carlos takes his best shot and the flames partly and briefly turn green, compared to Harry who doesn’t use Fuego or Forzare, he uses Friga and all the flames turn Winter ice blue for much longer. He may have hit the Fomor with a glacier.
When he fought with Eb, Harry didn’t draw on Winter or soulfire to enhance his spells, when he does he is going to surprise other wizards. And worry them. His ice spells may be more powerful than Eb’s Earth Magic.
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