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Mira:

--- Quote from: Avernite on September 12, 2020, 03:12:14 PM ---I'm actually thinking the Noose may be a kind of life-battery; twisted, but still a battery.

So I'm thinking the curse may be a kind of 'life for a life' and the only way to abuse it is to find someone to take the life off to extend your own. Nic has found the way to use it to steal rather than trade lives, and the Knights/Harry have no idea how to counter it, but maybe understanding it steals life rather than cursing could help gain insight?

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I've always thought that the noose had something to do with Judas.  Though I realize that that has been refuted, but I am not sure if it was Jim or not.  The noose itself can mean either an execution or suicide, but why?  That is the question, did Nic accept the coin to save himself from execution?  Or did he do something so terrible that he wanted to kill himself?  Or perhaps it does have something to do with Judas, that it was actually Nic who betrayed Jesus, so the noose that Judas hung himself with is around Nic's neck because he tricked Judas into thinking he was the blame?  I know it isn't even high grade tin foil..

ClintACK:
The noose's connection to Judas has been refuted? I missed that. I thought that was explicitly confirmed in the text in Death Masks, although Michael just says that they believe it to be the one Judas used.

Mira:

--- Quote from: ClintACK on September 12, 2020, 04:45:58 PM ---The noose's connection to Judas has been refuted? I missed that. I thought that was explicitly confirmed in the text in Death Masks, although Michael just says that they believe it to be the one Judas used.

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I remember reading that here that it wasn't years ago, so I thought it was.  However the connection is either too obvious to be true, or it is true and we have yet to get the full story.

Snark Knight:

--- Quote from: Mira on September 12, 2020, 04:49:29 AM ---The curse itself might not seem all that badass, but it was turbocharged by the Shroud.  The Knights only had the first part of the prophesy, Shiro taking Harry's place saved Harry, but to save everyone else, Harry had to get the Shroud away from Nic because he was using it to eventually give everyone the plague.

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The plague curse is different from the Barrabus curse. The entropy curse tried to drop a live electrical wire on Harry before he and Susan got behind the wards.

Mira:

--- Quote from: Snark Knight on September 12, 2020, 10:49:59 PM ---The plague curse is different from the Barrabus curse. The entropy curse tried to drop a live electrical wire on Harry before he and Susan got behind the wards.

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 Yeah, but that was all about stopping Harry, because only he could get the Shroud.

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