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vultur:

--- Quote from: Yuillegan on September 07, 2020, 07:58:26 AM ---There's not much information in terms of relation to other Nordic myths. Mostly just connected with varying sailors.

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Yeah, the kraken legend is of Scandinavian origin, but I think it's more maritime folklore than connected directly to the Norse myths involving the Aesir/Vanir, Jotuns, etc. (I'm not sure if the legend goes back that far either... the Wikipedia article claims it goes back to the Sagas but the references actually quoted refer to whale-like creatures not actually called kraken...)

Conspiracy Theorist:
Jim doesn’t just take classic myths he takes all sources of information, D&D and literature and film and tv are just as valid as sources for his world and ripe for incorporation, Jim is building his world, and he gets to choose which Lego’s he uses from which play set.

We have the Faithsabre from Star Wars myths sitting in the same book as the Hounds of Tindalos from the Cthulhu myths, sitting beside Gaelic mythology in the shape of  Ethnui.

When I point to Tennyson’s the Kraken and the Clash of the Titans, that is exactly it, and I would add It came From Beneath The Sea, Harryhausen’s giant Octopus flick, based yes on the classical Kraken of Norse maritime  myth and history. Also the Watcher in the Water at the Gates of Moriah, another tentacled watchdog. Rings is another huge influence on Jim.

Both Jim and Harry would have watched all of Harryhausen’s stuff. They are huge nerds and proud of it, but do not have a narrow focus limited to merely one fandom, they both enjoy a smorgasbord of fandom, sometimes sampling here and there, sometimes piling their plate up high with a particular choice dainty morsel. Here Jim went for the Calamari with several different dips.

All of which reminds of the one occasion where I actually broke bread with Jim, I did indeed have the Calamari with a sweet chilli sauce. It was delicious, but I seriously doubt it had anything to do with the Kraken.

Snark Knight:

--- Quote from: Yuillegan on September 07, 2020, 03:31:50 AM ---I don't think the Jotuns are necessarily Outsiders themselves. But perhaps they are related/connected like the Fomor and the Outsiders are.

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That's confirmed in one of the short stories. Sigrun calls the Fomor cousins of the Jotuns.

Conspiracy Theorist:
And Harry found a 3 foot long footprint on the beach.

Yuillegan:

--- Quote from: Snark Knight on September 09, 2020, 02:36:44 PM ---That's confirmed in one of the short stories. Sigrun calls the Fomor cousins of the Jotuns.

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Indeed, it is mentioned a few times. But I wonder if there is an Outsider crossover on the venn diagram. I mean, by cousins it could mean that the Fomor are sort of scions of Outsiders...or it could mean that both the Fomor and the Jotuns are both scions (or somehow related) to the Outsiders. Or something else entirely of course.


--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on September 09, 2020, 03:29:19 PM ---And Harry found a 3 foot long footprint on the beach.

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Yeah, definitely not Ethniu's I think. More likely one of her bruisers.

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