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The Fomor already unleashed ... Battle Ground Chapters 1 & 2
Gigglestomp:
What would be funny is a repeat of the unseelie incursion where the whole city goes missing for a few hours and is drawn into the never never. Mab and Titanic seal the ways. Then when the bad guys shownup there's nowhere to fight but empty earth and water. Battleground.
If it was over Halloween you could do a defensive darkhallow while everyones gone and suck the life from the fomor lol.
vultur:
--- Quote from: Arjan on September 02, 2020, 10:17:09 AM ---And influenced by the Christian monks who wrote the stuff down.
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Oh yeah, the actual timelines written down fit everything into a post-Deluge history going back just several thousand years BC (not sure exactly). Given the Cthulhu elements the DV Fomor have, they could easily be millions of years old.
I'm just saying that even in those timelines the Fomor are older than 1000 BC.
Mira:
--- Quote from: vultur on September 02, 2020, 07:30:30 PM ---Oh yeah, the actual timelines written down fit everything into a post-Deluge history going back just several thousand years BC (not sure exactly). Given the Cthulhu elements the DV Fomor have, they could easily be millions of years old.
I'm just saying that even in those timelines the Fomor are older than 1000 BC.
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Things from been written down for a long long time, legends about "the flood" for example first appeared on brick tablets from Babylonia, and there is some geological evidence now that there was a great flood that those legends are based upon that date back eons earler.
Yuillegan:
Oh, probably not millions. The god-level Fomor Titans like Ethniu are different of course. They came from before the universe, along with the rest of the other deities.
But the rest...that is harder to pin point.
Question is, what were all those beings doing for the several billion years before humanity came along?
vultur:
--- Quote from: Yuillegan on September 03, 2020, 03:30:56 AM ---Oh, probably not millions. The god-level Fomor Titans like Ethniu are different of course. They came from before the universe, along with the rest of the other deities.
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Maybe... But I actually think it's probably only the cross-universe beings like angels/fallen angels that are from outside the universe. Ethniu is daughter of Balor, so probably isn't 'older than time'.
I was suggesting millions of years only because of the Cthulhu-type connections, in which case the original Fomor could have once been a pre-human intelligent species inhabiting the physical Earth (as opposed to the Nevernever) before the rise of humanity.
But yeah, probably not.
--- Quote ---Question is, what were all those beings doing for the several billion years before humanity came along?
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There probably isn't one answer for all of them.
Time is mutable in the Nevernever, and the NN could have been quite different before it was shaped by human thought, so many Nevernever beings might not actually have experienced all that time. Even more so for beings like angels who are "cross-universe" so might not even have been in Harry's universe before mortal humans showed up.
And some beings might be fragments of older beings, the way Hecate was apparently split to create the Faerie Queens.
And (more speculatively) mortal life might have created energy in the NN, and maybe even non-intelligent proto-Fae. Things like spirits of hunger and rage and fear might have been around as soon as animals became advanced enough to experience those emotions.
But maybe humanoid and intelligent Fae like Toot-toot didn't start showing up until humans existed to shape the NN with their thoughts.
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