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TheCuriousFan:

--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on August 28, 2020, 04:42:25 PM ---We also don’t know Thomas ultimate fate, he might be inprisoned, he might not, but I find it significant it is Harry’s memory of his father that is centre stage. There is a theory on Reddit that Eb killed Malcolm as Malcom couldn’t defend Harry and that Eb needed him out of the way to make Harry vanish into the Foster system, based on Journal and Ch 4 of PT. I give this credence, Margaret rebelled against Eb when he was training her to replace him as Blackstaff. I think Morgan promised her to protect Harry.....from Eb doing exactly the same to Harry. The realisation of what Eb wants for Maggie and Eb’s apparent willingness to kill (the doppleganger) Harry means that Harry consciously realises that Eb broke the first law to kill his father and put him through the foster system. He may have subconsciously realised this as far back as Dead Beat and the dream sequence with Malcom. The Jabberwocky was Eb. Harry’s subconscious is way faster on the uptake than Harry.

This is what has Harry depressed on Christmas Eve, we have foreshadowing in ‘will granpa come for Christmas’ in ch4 PT. Harry asked for the ring after his confrontation with Eb, and I think it was for this conflict which Harry which he foresaw the need. He told Eb he would kill him if he tried this with Maggie, Harry was deadly serious. I think on Christmas Eve Eb is in Demonreach, and Harry doesn’t feel at all guilty about that.

This makes Eb as a possible reason for Thomas attack on Etri more likely, to force Harry to see things his way. I don’t however think that Eb is Nemfected or Black Council, merely an abusive controlling asshole who can’t admit he is ever wrong, and has because of his power and status got away with it for centuries. He abused Harry and Margaret, in the name of his love for them.

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There was nothing willing about Harry jarring him into setting off the boom prematurely by jumping at him. He was homicidal in that bit but not deliberately aimed at Harry.


--- Quote ---“Ach, God,” the old man whispered, his breath creaking.

His staff clattered to the dock. It sounded like it came from very far away.

“Harry?” he said. “Harry?”

His face appeared at the end of a little black tunnel.

“Oh, lad,” he said, tears in his eyes. “Oh, lad. Didn’t think you were going to come at me again. Didn’t think it would trigger.”

I could feel his hands on my face, distantly.

“That’s why you were so big on teaching me control,” I slurred dully. “You’re barely holding it together yourself.”
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Mira:

--- Quote ---There was nothing willing about Harry jarring him into setting off the boom prematurely by jumping at him. He was homicidal in that bit but not deliberately aimed at Harry.

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   Which screams that there is something very wrong with Eb, he doesn't lose control like that.  Now he may decide to get back at you by dropping a satellite on your head like he did Ortega for trying to kill his grandson by cheating in a duel, but that was done with a cool head.

vultur:

--- Quote from: Mira on August 29, 2020, 04:28:41 AM ---   Which screams that there is something very wrong with Eb, he doesn't lose control like that.

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Yeah. Though it might not be anything supernatural; River Shoulders says a lot of older wizards are running out of time. Maybe Eb's just losing focus/control/etc because of age.

I think that's part of why Harry is so devastated -- not only that Eb lost control and would have killed him, but that Eb basically can't be trusted anymore, which (as Blackstaff) probably means he's going to have to die... he probably wouldn't agree to retire at this point.

Conspiracy Theorist:
Retirement is an option, to a specialist elder care home called Demonreach. Of course most of the other  elders are Elder Gods.....

TheCuriousFan:

--- Quote from: Mira on August 29, 2020, 04:28:41 AM ---   Which screams that there is something very wrong with Eb, he doesn't lose control like that.  Now he may decide to get back at you by dropping a satellite on your head like he did Ortega for trying to kill his grandson by cheating in a duel, but that was done with a cool head.

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--- Quote from: vultur on August 29, 2020, 07:02:26 PM ---Yeah. Though it might not be anything supernatural; River Shoulders says a lot of older wizards are running out of time. Maybe Eb's just losing focus/control/etc because of age.

I think that's part of why Harry is so devastated -- not only that Eb lost control and would have killed him, but that Eb basically can't be trusted anymore, which (as Blackstaff) probably means he's going to have to die... he probably wouldn't agree to retire at this point.

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The loss of control is because he's basically Harry except with ghouls swapped out for vampires and there's the whole fear of history repeating that's driving him to desperation(Harry living with loved ones openly and Harry seeming way too close with the white court managed to hammer him with two in a few days) as Harry is in danger of being voted out. Might even have a bit more trauma from actually fighting the war against the Fomor to keep him wound up in general.

--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on August 29, 2020, 10:48:29 PM ---Retirement is an option, to a specialist elder care home called Demonreach. Of course most of the other  elders are Elder Gods.....

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As Harry points out with Thomas that's really a fate worse than death sort of thing especially for someone like Eb who has a whole lot of blood on his hands.

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