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Bob's parents.
Conspiracy Theorist:
--- Quote from: Yuillegan on September 05, 2020, 04:25:35 AM ---
Conspiracy Theorist - When you said Michael Scot I cracked up. I could definitely see Bob in the Office. But what a strange version of that show it would be.
But good research, very interesting theory. I particularly like the Redcap connection.
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I also think Jim may have mined W.B.Yeats work for inspiration, both Scott and Yeats were part of the Celtic revival and responsible for transcribing and tidying up traditional lays, ballards, poetry etc and those centre around the Sidhe, the Tuatha and the Fomor. It would fit in with both Jim’s education and inclinations, Tolkien academically mined a similar vein with Icelandic and Old English mythology.
Michael Scot’s travels and studies would allow for a crossover with the GateKeeper as well with his work in bringing Arabian mathematics to Europe. As a border man he he would be geographically adjacent to the Leanansidhes stomping grounds and he certainly was a creative individual, so I posit Michael Scott, the Wizard of the North as Bob’s father, currently in Demonreach and the Leanasidhe, his muse, as Bob’s mother, with Mab, Aurora or the GateKeeper as the midwife allowing him to survive.
The bit about him wearing an iron cap to protect against a prophecy of death by a falling object, well an iron cap would be useful I think against mental intrusion and influence by Fae, until Demonreach could protect him, especially if he did help steal The Black Staff, as he deserves to be there because he did something incredibly stupid (there was a woman involved).
The only drawback to this theory is that it’s a character whose name begins with ‘M’ and Jim never uses names beginning with that letter.
The_Sibelis:
@Conspiracy theorist, Yea I love all the little things just from the second coming thrown in there.. like, I'm pretty sure events work on a gyre.. 🤔
Conspiracy Theorist:
Lord William de Soulis would make an excellent candidate for a previous Winter Knight, looking at his biography on Wikipedia, working hand in glove with the Redcap.
KurtinStGeorge:
I was wondering if Bonea knows who her mother was, because she surely knows who her dad is. My guess is she has the information somewhere inside that massive memory of hers, but I don't know if that translates to knowing without digging through all of the memories Lash gave her. The reason I'm wondering about this is because if Bonea has this information then Bob should know who his parents were as well, even if he had to think about it for a while. This leads to the question of did the person who carried Bob's spirit survive the birth?
Yuillegan:
--- Quote from: vultur on September 05, 2020, 04:48:17 AM ---Well, I don't think it would or could be anything physical (human + fae normally results in a Changeling, not a Spirit of Intellect).
And I don't know that Mother Winter is worse than an actual Fallen. There could be a Shadow of some sort involved, just as with Harry/Lash.
Also, just because Mother Winter has never retired, she wasn't necessarily always what she is now. If the Faerie Courts had a major realignment around the time of Hastings, her role/Mantle (and therefore her nature) might have been rather different before that.
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I wasn't suggesting a physical act of copulation...yeesh! More that Mother Winter isn't really a person. It's like connecting your mind and soul to destruction itself. Like connecting your brain to a nuclear reactor. It isn't going to go well.
The changeling problem is important. But that doesn't rule out a Fae parent either.
True, true. Hard to say what's worse. I suspect it wouldn't matter much as either Fallen or MW you would be equally dead (although you could argue about the damage to your soul). Depending on who she was might be the missing link.
--- Quote from: vultur on September 05, 2020, 04:56:31 AM ---I think the most important thing though is the statement about it being 'obvious'. To me that implies that not only does it have to be one immortal or ancient supernatural being and one semi-mortal (but old enough to qualify), but that there has to actually be some relationship or connection between them established.
The only ones I can think of that fit that are Odin / Gard, Merlin / Demonreach (if Bob's movie in CD qualifies him as 'appearing in the series'), and - at a stretch - HWWBehind / Lord Raith (but I *really* don't think Bob is half-Outsider).
There aren't that many semi-mortals over 1000 years old in the series, and a lot of them are Denarians who probably aren't qualified (any "shadow" they had would have been re-absorbed when they took up the Coin fully, so no chance of a Harry / Lash type situation).
River Shoulders has no established relationship with an immortal.
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Bob didn't know Demonreach, and doesn't have a particularly Norse theme. He also didn't recognise Merlin's magic. So that should rule out most of that. I certainly don't see a particular White Court or Outsider theme. Harry would surely have recognised that!
Truth is the hints we have are many. But being a spirit of Air and intellect (and the fact that it is a known character we have met) almost certainly means Mab is his mother. It's whether she was Queen of Air and Darkness at the time, or whether she was merely the Lady or even mortal herself. Because all of that would decide whether Mab was the mortal in the relationship or whether she was the immortal.
So really we have to figure out the father. I think an If x, then y formula should do.
If Mab was mortal, then Vadderung (or one of his aspects) is most likely.
If Mab was immortal, then Merlin would be most likely.
However there are a few things that stand out.
Bob acts mostly like a horny teenager. So Harry has a had a strong effect from his youth. But when carried by Cowl or Corpsetaker he acts cold and ruthless and sadistic...but always somewhat insouciant.
So in someways, the mortal he resembles most, is Id-Harry.
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