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Bob's parents.
Conspiracy Theorist:
New candidate for Bob’s dad Michael Scot/Scotus 1175 – c. 1232, ‘The Wizard of the North’ his birth and death are unclear according to Wikipedia so he could predate his ‘birth’ by a couple of centuries if a White Court Wizard. This revised timeline would not only put him in the time slot to be Bob’s dad but it would put him in 1066 in time for the Battle of Stamford Bridge where Mother Winters Walking stick got stolen, which was Ango Saxons v Norwegians (Mab was with William the Conqueror) the Battle of Hastings took place 19 days later and the Anglo-Saxons lost to the Normans. Demonreach is the one place you can hide from the Mothers.
Scotus appears as a character in works by Dante and Sir Walter Scott, which is where Jim may have came across him. Sir Walter Scott wrote and collected ballads about Scot teaching magic to an ‘Evil Lord Soules’ and his familiar Robin Redcap. Yes that Redcap.
I intend to do a bit of research on this because one of the other ballads in the collection, Thomas The Rhymer pretty much exactly describes a recent WOJ as regards what happens when you get frisky with a Summer Lady, suggesting he is familiar with the collection or its source material.
The Tale of Tamlane (Tam Lin) is there as well, so both Summer and Winter Courts are represented. All three are part of Minstrelty of the Scottish Borders.
Sir Walter Scott also wrote Letters on Demonology and Witchcraft.
knnn:
Some toughts/points
* Old (2009) WoJ about Bob: "He’s a thousand year old being, he’s not in a hurry" (
* The fact that Bob doesn't recognize Merlin-style magic suggests to me Merlin is probably not the father
* Could something like River Shoulders be the father?
* What about Mac?
* Mother Winter (not sure about "love")?
Yuillegan:
--- Quote from: knnn on September 04, 2020, 07:26:59 PM ---Some toughts/points
* Old (2009) WoJ about Bob: "He’s a thousand year old being, he’s not in a hurry" (
* The fact that Bob doesn't recognize Merlin-style magic suggests to me Merlin is probably not the father
* Could something like River Shoulders be the father?
* What about Mac?
* Mother Winter (not sure about "love")?
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1. Would make the Mab/Morgana mother theory more likely.
2. Agreed.
3. I suppose a similar mortal-monster like River Shoulders could be. But wouldn't Bob be more like them?
4. Could be...except he seems rather too old. It seems like everyone knows him personally, and either like him or rather hate him. And again, Bob seems rather far removed from him.
5. I suppose it's possible, but what mortal would copulate with her? In any fashion? Wouldn't the act of connection with such a destructive being kill you? Also, I would expect Bob to be far more powerful in that case.
Conspiracy Theorist - When you said Michael Scot I cracked up. I could definitely see Bob in the Office. But what a strange version of that show it would be.
But good research, very interesting theory. I particularly like the Redcap connection.
--- Quote from: The_Sibelis on August 26, 2020, 05:45:24 AM ---Doesn't HHWBH have an English accent in Harry's flashback in GS too? 🤔
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Indeed. But I always take that as part of Jim (and American writers in general) to make villains somewhat British. Presumably because people still aren't over a little dispute that happened a few hundred years ago. Oh well, what are you gonna do. Never see any villains with Canadian accent do you? Or New Zealander?
vultur:
--- Quote from: Yuillegan on September 05, 2020, 04:25:35 AM ---5. I suppose it's possible, but what mortal would copulate with her? In any fashion? Wouldn't the act of connection with such a destructive being kill you? Also, I would expect Bob to be far more powerful in that case.
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Well, I don't think it would or could be anything physical (human + fae normally results in a Changeling, not a Spirit of Intellect).
And I don't know that Mother Winter is worse than an actual Fallen. There could be a Shadow of some sort involved, just as with Harry/Lash.
Also, just because Mother Winter has never retired, she wasn't necessarily always what she is now. If the Faerie Courts had a major realignment around the time of Hastings, her role/Mantle (and therefore her nature) might have been rather different before that.
vultur:
I think the most important thing though is the statement about it being 'obvious'. To me that implies that not only does it have to be one immortal or ancient supernatural being and one semi-mortal (but old enough to qualify), but that there has to actually be some relationship or connection between them established.
The only ones I can think of that fit that are Odin / Gard, Merlin / Demonreach (if Bob's movie in CD qualifies him as 'appearing in the series'), and - at a stretch - HWWBehind / Lord Raith (but I *really* don't think Bob is half-Outsider).
There aren't that many semi-mortals over 1000 years old in the series, and a lot of them are Denarians who probably aren't qualified (any "shadow" they had would have been re-absorbed when they took up the Coin fully, so no chance of a Harry / Lash type situation).
River Shoulders has no established relationship with an immortal.
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