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vultur:
The angels have enormous power, but very strictly constrained by their purpose. They can't just go take over somebody else's job... like Winter's.
Now, you would think Heaven would want to supplant Winter given that Winterfae prey on mortals... but we don't really know how or why the division of roles among all these cosmic powers was established.
The Starborn cycle is presumably also involved in the defense of Reality, so there could be mortal Free Will issues (which the angels can't interfere with) involved with Heaven taking it over.
Also, there might be a scale factor. Angels are multi-versal, so they're probably spread very thin. And their primary concern is their conflict with the Fallen over mortal souls.
Even if an angel can wave a hand and obliterate whole armies of Outsiders, they might not be able to defend all the Outer Gates of all the parallel universes in Creation without letting the Fallen get away with a lot.
So they let the defenders in each particular universe do that job, while they focus on the Fallen.
(Protecting families of the Knights, IMO, is a subsidiary aspect of their real job, not a totally different job. And a maximum of three families per universe, currently only one in Harry's, probably aren't so much of a burden.)
Yuillegan:
Basically sort of what Vultur was saying. Angels are multiverse-level entities, and Outsiders are implied to be on the same level, but it appears the Angels are rather busy preserving the functioning of the multiverse AND fighting an endless civil war. However, it seems that Outsiders can't express their full power in most situations (like Angels) for some cosmic reason and therefore are simultaneously weaker and equally as strong as Angels. Perhaps it's a Will thing, or a Chaos vs Order thing, or something else entirely. But it seems Angels are not needed for such small conflicts like the Outer Gates.
Make of that what you will.
--- Quote from: Dina on August 24, 2020, 04:44:20 PM ---I think Uriel simply likes humanity, that is why he takes those risks.
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I absolutely agree. Almost as though he thinks it is the most important thing, rather like Harry in that it's his only option. What gets interesting is when you consider what the other Archangels are doing. Did Lucifer also once think that those risks were important but it didn't work out? Do Michael and Raphael also take such risks? If so, where are they? If not, why not? Perhaps the risks are too great...
And I know you didn't mean to imply it, but do you think that Michael and Raphael like humanity less than Uriel (if at all)?
Dina:
--- Quote from: Yuillegan on August 25, 2020, 04:25:00 AM ---Basically sort of what Vultur was saying. Angels are multiverse-level entities, and Outsiders are implied to be on the same level, but it appears the Angels are rather buys preserving the functioning of the multiverse AND fighting an endless civil war. However, it seems that Outsiders can't express their full power in most situations (like Angels) for some cosmic reason and therefore are simultaneously weaker and equally as strong as Angels. Perhaps it's a Will thing, or a Chaos vs Order thing, or something else entirely. But it seems Angels are not needed for such small conflicts like the Outer Gates.
Make of that what you will.
I absolutely agree. Almost as though he thinks it is the most important thing, rather like Harry in that it's his only option. What gets interesting is when you consider what the other Archangels are doing. Did Lucifer also once think that those risks were important but it didn't work out? Do Michael and Raphael also take such risks? If so, where are they? If not, why not? Perhaps the risks are too great...
And I know you didn't mean to imply it, but do you think that Michael and Raphael like humanity less than Uriel (if at all)?
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Literally, I don't know, as I know nothing about them in the DF. But a priori I would say, "yes", because they are simply too far away. For liking humanity you need to know it very well first.
Yuillegan:
--- Quote from: Dina on August 25, 2020, 04:33:53 AM ---Literally, I don't know, as I know nothing about them in the DF. But a priori I would say, "yes", because they are simply too far away. For liking humanity you need to know it very well first.
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Interesting. Not so far away that they don't interfere at all though. Archangel Michael gave Esperacchius to Sanya, and Rafael or one of his lieutenants put warding on the Carpenter safe room. Gabriel hasn't shown up much recently but he sure used to, at least in the Bible.
I'd say they have different ways of showing their appreciation for humanity. Perhaps even have different reasons. I guess we'll see at some point.
But I don't think liking humanity or otherwise is enough to risk whatever Uriel is risking. I suspect things get harder for him sometimes...like during the Cycle perhaps.
Dina:
No, I don't think that is "interfering" with humanity. I believe that is doing their job. I suspect TWG commissioned them to do those things you mentioned, while Uriel decided to take the risk.
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