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About Bob... (Spoilers All, Spoilers today's AMA)

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ClintACK:

Crazy idea: Mavra and the Archive. Mavra was the Archive's host, a long time ago. Crazy circumstances surrounding her death led to a piece of the Archive's knowledge imprinting on a bit of her soul and splintering off like a ghost -- voila: Bob! (Mavra was left as a black court Vampire and with her death the Archive moved on to its next host.)

Another crazy idea: Mac and Ethniu. (If Mac is McKinneally (sp?) then he was Ethniu's husband, at least long enough to father the child that would grow up to kill Balor...)

Dina:

--- Quote from: The_Sibelis on August 24, 2020, 02:27:05 AM ---They're are kinda different layers to possession, I'd argue a mantle is a possession with extra coding in the program, what the fallen do, ect.
The thing that throws me for a loop atm,vis one parent died to make Bonnie but we've seen Bob's parents, plural... So how did that happen? The old fashioned way?

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That we have seen it in the books does not mean that they are alive. It could be somebody like Sir Stewart or something mentioned in the books, like Siriovax.

Conspiracy Theorist:

--- Quote from: ClintACK on August 24, 2020, 02:14:56 AM ---We know one of the parents probably has to be possessing the other. But if we rule out fallen shadows (because he's not on a faith wavelength) -- what else have we seen possessing people? Ghosts.

But I'm not sure that helps any. Have we seen any ghosts that are old enough?

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Actually we don’t, you are presuming this is the only form of interaction creating a spirit of intellect, when it would appear this circumstance is unique to Harry at least with the Denarians,  nor is it likely that it is a ghost as the only such spirit in book old enough is Sue.

Mavra is too young, Bob is 1,000 years old.

Mac and Etnui’s Child is well documented in folklore, not Bob.

vultur:
I'm not sure it necessarily needs to be possession, but lots of beings we might think of as spirits have changelings/scions, not spirits of intellect.

Half-Fae/half-humans are changelings, mostly human until they Choose. Glau in PG is a djinn/human scion, and he's still mostly human, not a spirit.

So I think a supernatural being in nonphysical/pure-spirit form, or a bodiless shadow of a greater supernatural being, would have to be one of the parents.

Fae seem pretty tied into the Changeling/Choice mechanic, so I'm skeptical of Mab or Lea. Also, if Bob were Mab's son, I'd expect him to be incorporated into Winter's power structure, not essentially exiled and fearing for his life.

What about Odin (possibly with Gard, who might be mortal enough, yet is over 1000 years old)? He has ties to Winter as Kringle, but isn't of its power structure, Kringle is still Wyldfae. Odin is a god of knowledge, writing, and magic (among many other things).

Odin seems physical, but we really don't know what he is *under* his Mantles. Even if he is basically physical, he might be able to do something like the 'shadow' effect. IMO Valkyries are sort of like the Faerie Knights, so Odin probably can split off part of his power.

The_Sibelis:
Odin already gave birth to two Soi imo, hugin anmunin. In the category of things that keep repeating, pretty sure the Archive was formulated out of Merlin or another old renditions Soi. I say Merlin cause of her purpose..

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