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Peace Talks First book that made Dresdenverse feel smaller -Spoilers
vultur:
--- Quote from: Mira on August 23, 2020, 05:13:56 AM --- Bombshells it was mostly a bilateral nonaggression pact between the Svartalves and the Fomor, not as big as formal peace talks.
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Sure, but Bombshells does imply that the Fomor are known to be betrayers (at least known to the Fae). So a lot of people might not really want to be there, expecting major trouble.
All the really "central" supernatural nations were there -- Winter, Summer, the White Council, the White Court (the only remaining powerful & widespread Vampire Court).
The powers we know are on the Accords but haven't met (the Jade Court, Drakul, another Dragon -- I guess Pyrovax, an Ukrainian shapeshifter guru, etc.) didn't have a reason to be there, or expected trouble and didn't need to be there enough to take the risk.
Though some might show up fighting on the Fomor's side in BG.
Avernite:
I would note the text made clear we didn't get all the attendees; one local clan of Ghouls was expanded upon because HARRY cared. But for all the smaller others present? They sent a representative, they mingled, they didn't jump to Marcone's defence but also didn't jump on the fearful side.
Regenbogen:
--- Quote from: gawime on August 21, 2020, 03:43:05 AM ---Every book in the series so far helped expand the world building, at times in small ways. New antagonists; new knowledge; added characters all helped grow the Dresdenverse. Peace Talks in my mind is the first book in the entire series that bent that trajectory. I’m speaking of the Accords meeting. The Accords are supposed to be something that spans the entire supernatural world. But who do we see at chez Marcone’s? The same cast of characters we’ve always seen. That’s it? A half dozen or so powers? Where’s everyone else?
Peace talks is a deeply flawed novel...perhaps the worst in the series so far. A lot can be forgiven. But I’m not sure I can overlook taking an axe to the world building that’s been done up to now.
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I don't think it is deeply flawed. It is not yet finished and JB made no secret of the fact that he basically splitted one book in two. So I would wait with condemning the whole book. We don't have all the information yet.
And I would say, that I enjoyed reading the book.
ClintACK:
Another thought on Peace Talks disappointment -- I remember being very disappointed with Ghost Story, having waited for a year to see Harry back alive and with his friends. Now, on rereads, I enjoy Ghost Story quite a bit.
I expect Peace Talks will look much better when we've read Battle Ground, and better still when we've got another book or two under our belts.
Looking forward, I expect to be disappointed at the end of Battle Ground if we see *that* the masquerade is over, but don't get to see how that falls out. I expect to be even more disappointed if the book after Battle Ground takes place entirely in a mirror universe so that we *still* don't get to see that fallout. But I expect to enjoy both books immensely anyway.
KurtinStGeorge:
--- Quote from: ClintACK on August 24, 2020, 02:06:17 AM ---Another thought on Peace Talks disappointment -- I remember being very disappointed with Ghost Story, having waited for a year to see Harry back alive and with his friends. Now, on rereads, I enjoy Ghost Story quite a bit.
I expect Peace Talks will look much better when we've read Battle Ground, and better still when we've got another book or two under our belts.
Looking forward, I expect to be disappointed at the end of Battle Ground if we see *that* the masquerade is over, but don't get to see how that falls out. I expect to be even more disappointed if the book after Battle Ground takes place entirely in a mirror universe so that we *still* don't get to see that fallout. But I expect to enjoy both books immensely anyway.
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I don't think Peace Talks will ever be a fully enjoyable read by itself. Unlike other Dresden Files novels; specifically Ghost Story and Fool Moon, both of which have often been placed on the top of least favorite Dresden Files novels lists, it doesn't tell a complete story. For that reason it will always fall short for a large swath of readers.
If next year I was talking to someone who just started the series, I would have to warn them that while Peace Talks isn't a complete story, if you don't read it the next book won't make any sense at all. Not that I recommending skipping any of the novels but it is easy for a newer reader to read a couple of the novels out of order and Peace Talks and Battle Ground would be an especially bad place to make that mistake. On the other hand a new reader of the series will have the advantage of reading both books back to back. If; for example, in the next couple of chapters of Battle Ground we start to see Harry shake his brain loose and start thinking like the detective he is, the problem I, and many other readers, had with Harry in Peace Talks will quickly fade away for that reader while we have had a couple of months to wonder why Harry is behaving the way he is.
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