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Mira:

--- Quote from: Bad Alias on September 21, 2020, 06:13:08 PM ---I will say that just about everything is much more complicated than someone who doesn't have a lot of experience with it tends to think. I remember seeing a video of a college age girl running a tractor. It looked more complicated than Houston space command during the Apollo era. I mean, I knew farming is a lot more complicated than putting a seed in a hole in the ground and making sure it got enough water, but I don't think I could run a tractor on a serious farm without training.

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Actually trackers are pretty easy to drive, I've done it..  However they can be a dangerous piece of equipment and several farmers are killed each year driving them.  However you are right, farming is a lot more complicated because you are dealing with living things and ever changing conditions that have to be compensated for otherwise, livestock dies and crops are lost.. Sometimes it happens no matter what you do right.

Bad Alias:
I've driven tractors too. Just not like the one I saw this girl driving. I don't think such complicated tractors existed 10, maybe even five, years ago. The one I drove was operated almost exactly the same as a stick shift car with some controls for the tractor parts too. All the instruction I needed was my dad telling me "this does that, and that does this." It was pretty straight forward.

Found it. https://youtu.be/9dQItxc5zto. She's got at least four screens in there.

Mira:

--- Quote from: Bad Alias on September 22, 2020, 08:54:49 PM ---I've driven tractors too. Just not like the one I saw this girl driving. I don't think such complicated tractors existed 10, maybe even five, years ago. The one I drove was operated almost exactly the same as a stick shift car with some controls for the tractor parts too. All the instruction I needed was my dad telling me "this does that, and that does this." It was pretty straight forward.

Found it. https://youtu.be/9dQItxc5zto. She's got at least four screens in there.

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Take away the screens and it still is a tractor.. Notice it has the usual steering wheel and goes about five miles per hour.  Sounds like the screens were mostly for data concerning the crops that she was harvesting, and it sounds like they make that much easier as well.  I admit all the computer screens would burn my brain to ash, but I am not tech wizard.. But take them away and it still a tractor, okay maybe a one or two hundred thousand dollar tractor, but still a tractor.

Bad Alias:

--- Quote from: Mira on September 22, 2020, 09:13:57 PM ---Take away the screens and it still is a tractor.

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Take away what makes a thing complicated, and it's not complicated. I could get in that tractor, start it, and drive it. It doesn't mean I wouldn't destroy the crops in the process, much less, accomplish something useful.


--- Quote from: Mira on September 22, 2020, 09:13:57 PM ---Sounds like the screens were mostly for data concerning the crops that she was harvesting, and it sounds like they make that much easier as well.

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Exactly. She's doing it the easy way.

Mira:

--- Quote ---Take away what makes a thing complicated, and it's not complicated. I could get in that tractor, start it, and drive it. It doesn't mean I wouldn't destroy the crops in the process, much less, accomplish something useful.

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Well, yeah, there is a lot more to farming than one thinks, a lot more.. I know, I've done it.  Ever
try pulling a calf in near zero conditions?  I have, it isn't easy and the little bugger actually lived! ;D
Then the young mother rejected it, it ended up in my living room.

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