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Logistics515:

--- Quote from: Eleyctra on August 18, 2020, 05:30:12 AM ---What about that girl Lydia with the prophetic vision Cassandra's Tears from Grave Peril? She gave Harry a vision that by now we know implies the kickoff to the BAT (there's even confirmation by Jim she helps kick it off. Though I'm not sure where it is...)

How much do you guys think that plays into the theory?

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My personal impression was that her prophecy was limited to the Red Court vampire war in context, but thinking of it in a broader sense, I don't see how it couldn't apply to the BAT as well.

Conspiracy Theorist:
If Harry is a fudge factor for predestination then this would have messed with her visions likely conflating the Red Court War and the BAT, but there is an argument that in starting the Red Court War Harry ALSO fired the first shot leading to BAT and the Red Court War and the Titan War are merely battles leading up to the Final Battle in the War for Reality. This looks likely as we have already seen connections between the Red Court and the Fomor, and with both and the Outsiders.

ClintACK:
Lydia's prophecy had Harry as the only one who could make things go another way -- perhaps there was a concrete and immediate meaning for that.

A "What If?" scenario: What if Harry had just stood there in Grave Peril and watched Mavra use Amoracchius to sacrifice Lydia while Kravos lurked in the background and the veil between life and death had been systematically weakened? What was Mavra's big plan? We know Harry wrecked it, but he never figured out what the point was.

Aside from one of the Swords being taken out of commission (perhaps permanently), what was she hoping to gain? Tons of work went into it -- training Kravos, getting him to suicide, weeks of attacks on the Veil. Was Mavra getting ready to perform an ascension ritual? Was Kravos going to gather all the ghosts of the Red Court's victims (the ones Harry calls on in the finale) and come back to life in Lydia's body (somewhat like Corpsetaker's plot in Ghost Story), only to have Mavra consume his power and become a new Black Court Elder?

(If so, it's ironic that Mavra didn't just let Harry and friends leave...)

Mira:

--- Quote ---My personal impression was that her prophecy was limited to the Red Court vampire war in context, but thinking of it in a broader sense, I don't see how it couldn't apply to the BAT as well.

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Oh I do, I think her vision had more of a "Armageddon" vibe to it.  It becomes a matter of scale I guess, but first there was Bianca's party, that could fit Lydia's vision, but small in scale big on ramifications.. Then there was C.I. Harry was instrumental in wiping out the Red Court true, but that really doesn't have the fire reference and since the Red Court was merely a cat's paw for a larger group, still isn't big enough.  Now what is about to happen in Chicago with the Fomor and the fact that Harry is armed with the kind of weaponry for it could very well for-fill her vision, depends.  The BAT we are talking the possible end to existence as we know it, so that more than likely fits the bill.

Smaug with OCD:

--- Quote from: Eleyctra on August 18, 2020, 05:30:12 AM ---How much do you guys think that plays into the theory?

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"beginning and end?" Like... The alpha and the omega, perhaps? 8)

Yes, it's a butt pull... but I kinda like this theory. So, have some more "evidence" as support, free of charge.

And, hey. If Dresden can be Kemmler and Merlin(both theories I've seen in various places), why not Jesus, too?

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