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Who called up the corner hounds and why didn't anyone notice...?
Conspiracy Theorist:
Justine and Nic are not practitioners, although the protection on True Love like the bodysuit, would also stop her magical aura being read by Harry, did they touch in Grave Peril?
Nic isn’t a practitioner, but has them working for him, he figures why fix his own toilet, when he can hire a plumber. Hmm he wanted to hire Harry as a ‘plumber’.
Has anyone any idea what happened to Austin? His new Master may have been Black Council and used him to summon the Hounds, we are getting a lot of shout backs from the stories in PT, and he is as naturally gifted in Summoning as Molly is with veils, or Harry in making things explode, or Carlos in virginity.
Mira:
--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on August 13, 2020, 03:07:30 PM ---Justine and Nic are not practitioners, although the protection on True Love like the bodysuit, would also stop her magical aura being read by Harry, did they touch in Grave Peril?
Nic isn’t a practitioner, but has them working for him, he figures why fix his own toilet, when he can hire a plumber. Hmm he wanted to hire Harry as a ‘plumber’.
Has anyone any idea what happened to Austin? His new Master may have been Black Council and used him to summon the Hounds, we are getting a lot of shout backs from the stories in PT, and he is as naturally gifted in Summoning as Molly is with veils, or Harry in making things explode, or Carlos in virginity.
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Depends on what you call a practitioner.. It's been a while since I read Blood Rites, but I don't think it took much talent to call up an Outsider, just the right ritual/words. Those that I mention would have access to both the ritual/words and someone who could do it.
Conspiracy Theorist:
If it were that easy then we could be ass deep in Outsiders, the Gates exist for a purpose, and make it difficult to whistle in the Outsiders.
morriswalters:
I'm currently assuming that BG ends with another cliff hanger into Mirror Mirror. With that in mind, one possible person who might be interested in calling in an outsider might be Harry 2, for who knows what? Maybe to drag off Harry to some more convenient reality.
vultur:
--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on August 13, 2020, 04:51:50 PM ---If it were that easy then we could be ass deep in Outsiders, the Gates exist for a purpose, and make it difficult to whistle in the Outsiders.
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IMO, Winter (and, in past eras, other defenders of the Gates) keeps the Outsiders from just overrunning Reality. The Gates themselves let Winter go on the offense and help check for Nemesis incursions.
But mortal magic can still summon Outsiders. IIRC it's a free will/invitation thing, like thresholds. The Outsiders can't just rampage in and unmake Reality, but if you invite them in, that's different.
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I think it kind of *is* that easy, if you know something about Outsiders and magic, are crazy enough to do it, and don't get killed by the Wardens.
Which probably actually doesn't describe that many people, so it's not really that easy in practice.
But the bad guys never seem to have that much trouble getting Outsiders...
- Justin summoned HWWBehind before the series.
- The "evil eye cult" summoned HWWBehind in BR... though he didn't actually attack, just threatened Harry, so I'm not sure he was 100% "there" in a physically capable form.
- The Red Court's allies used Outsiders in the big offscreen battles in DB, and also in PG.
- Vitto Malvora is possessed by an Outsider in WN.
- Peabody's mistfiend in TC was probably an Outsider (it's said to be "from the far reaches of the Nevernever", but a later book calls it an Outsider. At the very least, it's Outside-connected due to mordite.)
- There's a ton of them in the attack on Demonreach in CD, including HWWBefore.
- A pack of cornerhounds shows up in PT.
(I think there's also an Outsider in the graphic novel "War Cry", but I haven't seen that one...)
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