The Dresden Files > DF Spoilers
There's something about Justine (PT and BG spoilers +WAG)
Mira:
--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on August 08, 2020, 11:38:23 PM ---What if to get the monster (Ethnui or Corb) Butters needs to slice through Harry or an innocent being held as a shield, it may be a set up for that. Use of the sword on a innocent destroyed or imperilled the swords. Someone relying on that now with this sword of Faith is really going to lose their head (which frankly would be poetic justice for Nudd). The old innocent trick has been tried twice in the DF and must have been used multiple times in the past. Not any longer.
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Or more like slice through Justine, thus saving the day and killing the Hunger.
Helga Ozark:
--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on August 08, 2020, 11:22:55 AM ---The spoilers have both been extensively discussed in their threads, Nemesis allow one to act without the normal restriction. Cat Sith wants to kill Harry from meeting him, he literally can’t because of his oath to Mab. Mortals operate under free will, it is pointless nemfecting them.
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Re spoilers...yeah, I wasn't sure of the rules on what should and shouldn't be under a spoiler tag even on a spoiler board. My bad :)
Re Nemfections....Do we know for certain that Nemesis only infects beings without will or have certain restrictions? (I haven't read the short stories in Brief Cases so I don't know if there are any clues there). Humans have ethical and moral restrictions too. Michael would never abandon his wife and children. He has free will to do so but it's against his nature.
--- Quote from: morriswalters on August 08, 2020, 09:49:36 PM ---Thomas never says Justine's name. Harry assumes it. It means something, but your guess is as good as anybody's.
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Exactly. The alternative is that Thomas is trying to say someone else's name. Justin is the only other character that I remember that starts with "J" but would Thomas know him?
--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on August 08, 2020, 11:38:23 PM ---What if to get the monster (Ethnui or Corb) Butters needs to slice through Harry or an innocent being held as a shield, it may be a set up for that.
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True, there may be lots of reasons why the "safety sword" was introduced. The romantic in me wants the sword to save the baby though ;)
morriswalters:
Gibberish is gibberish. Thomas doesn't say anything intelligible. This is Jim playing with expectations.
The_Sibelis:
I don't think it's a safe sword per se... I think it plays to the perceptions of the holder and who they think is an enemy or not. It won't hurt someone the welder doesn't believe is bad. That gives it room for error(reminds me specifically of the sword of truth)
Conspiracy Theorist:
The baby might not need saving, remember a hunger dies if the Whamp falls in love and gains True Love Protection before first feeding. Technically this has happened here and the hunger and the baby shouldn’t have survived, the survival of the baby suggests something deeply strange is happening which might give Harry the info he needs to save Thomas hunger and not just Thomas. At the moment the hunger is too interlaced with Thomas, even if you could remove it Thomas would be wrong this is a lesson from Molly. The sword is a sword, not a scalpel, and it’s wielder hates operating on living people.
The baby is born in February/ March and to the whamps it is wrong to them , they call in Harry, and he perhaps call in Molly, and determine what is wrong, and it is that knowledge which will save Thomas. There may have been a medical reason why papa wraith killed his sons, a recessive tendency for his male offspring to become something else, not Whamp. The baby is what Thomas could become. He is around to be asked. He may know why Justine conceived in the first place, despite being under True Love with Thomas. Thomas consulted the family records, not his father who should know something.
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