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If Not Mab, Could Nic Be Behind What Thomas Did?

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Mira:

--- Quote ---You say that Justine doesn't have true love protection, the baby can feed off of Justine, therefore Justine doesn't have true love protection. Both of your premises are assumptions and you're conclusion is one of your premises.
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Page 2 Peace Talks

--- Quote ---"The usual, mostly. Except that the baby's Hunger will draw life energy from Justine.  She's going to be fed upon continuously for the next seven and a half months."
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True love's protection burns the Hunger demon, Thomas says it will be feeding continuously on Justine for the next seven and a half months.. Ergo Justine no longer has any true love protection, she gave that up back in Ghost Story.  Not my assumption, it is the assumption of Thomas, he should know.. It is how it has worked from the beginning of the series, true love protects one from being fed upon by the Hunger demon, sex with someone other than one's true love cancels it.
 
--- Quote ---Why does Justine keep bringing girls to Thomas for them to have sex with? Why did she say "rinse and repeat?" Why does the trailer show them not having direct physical contact. You're ignoring the point everyone's bringing up.

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Maybe she is bi-sexual ?  In the few paragraphs devoted to her, while Harry does talk about her "glow" or aura from being pregnant, nothing is said about "rinse and repeat.."  As far as the trailer goes you've gone to the movies enough to know that sometimes they are not totally actuate. Also that is one scene, also in Peace Talks anyway, there is no scene with Justine and Thomas together to be touching or not touching.  Thomas is already beaten up in svartelve custody, when Harry goes to see her at their place.  Maybe Thomas has taken a lover because since Justine is already being constantly being fed upon by the baby Hunger he doesn't want to kill her?

vultur:

--- Quote from: Mira on August 10, 2020, 06:17:24 PM ---True love's protection burns the Hunger demon

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Not necessarily. It wouldn't burn a Malvora. And the Hunger demon *itself* isn't different, since Madrigal Raith could switch to feeding on fear like a Malvora.

So True Love might not be a protection in this instance. You might need True Love, Courage, *and* Hope.

... or even that might not help since this isn't emotion-based. Thomas' Hunger Demon doesn't need emotions to feed on his own life energy. Maybe no protection will work against feeding "from within".

CrusherJen:

--- Quote from: vultur on August 11, 2020, 04:12:36 AM ---... or even that might not help since this isn't emotion-based. Thomas' Hunger Demon doesn't need emotions to feed on his own life energy. Maybe no protection will work against feeding "from within".

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I think that's the key here. Just as Thomas' demon feeds on his own energy when there's no other food available, the baby's demon, connected to Justine through the womb, feeds on her, because that's what's available to it. And since Thomas' True Love doesn't protect him from his own internal Hunger, Justine's Love can't protect her from her baby's Hunger. They're going to need another solution.

Mira:

--- Quote ---Not necessarily. It wouldn't burn a Malvora. And the Hunger demon *itself* isn't different, since Madrigal Raith could switch to feeding on fear like a Malvora.

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Maybe because Malvora fed off a totally different emotion that Lara and Thomas feed off of.  Where true love burned their Hunger, maybe extreme courage would burn Malvora's Demon.

--- Quote ---I think that's the key here. Just as Thomas' demon feeds on his own energy when there's no other food available, the baby's demon, connected to Justine through the womb, feeds on her, because that's what's available to it. And since Thomas' True Love doesn't protect him from his own internal Hunger, Justine's Love can't protect her from her baby's Hunger. They're going to need another solution.
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Exactly.

ClintACK:
Wait...

Do we know that True Love only burns lust-feeding Whampires, or is that just a common fan theory?

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