The Dresden Files > DF Spoilers
Will Harry Have to Come Clean?
Arjan:
--- Quote from: Mira on August 08, 2020, 10:33:36 PM ---You'd never convince her of that whether it is true or not, and actually you may have put your finger on what could lead to her ultimate downfall, even death.. Face it, she is hard headed and sees things her way and the last thing she wants is to be Harry's responsibility. That is what her reaction was all about at the end of the book, she can look after herself. That is why I said I thought she was being selfish, because if she does die, Harry will feel responsible for the rest of his life, he also knows he cannot stop her.
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It doesn’t really matter in this case because Karin is smart and practical enough to go with any legal excuse Lara and Mab come up with to prevent the fallout. If she is informed about it at all.
But I don’t even think it will come up. I think Eb is wrong here. The white court is the accord member responsible for the whole affair and the svartalves are sticklers to the rules. They will work via Lara and she will take responsibility. Mab would not accept it if she tried to make Harry responsible and I don’t think the svartalves would accept that either.
And after the fight with the Fomor the outsider threat will be even more clear and the main members will want a diplomatic solution. Mab wants to keep her knight and so on. A diplomatic solution will be found. Nobody wants to offend Mab anyway.
Marcone soul gazed Harry. He knows Harry would go ballistic if he messes with Karin that way and I don’t think the svartalves are even interested in Karin. They were not interested in the Fomor servants in bombshells. They go for Lara as the responsible one.
Conspiracy Theorist:
Etri to Mab “release Thomas from Demonreach”
Mab to Etri ‘I can’t”
Etri to Lara “release Thomas from Demonreach”
Lara to Etri “I can’t “
Etri to to Harry “release Thomas from Demonreach”
Harry to Etri “ I can ,but I won’t”
Putting Thomas on Demonreach means Harry is outside Lara’s and Mab’s control completely when he is on the island, try and force him on the island and you get taken down whether Lara, Etri or Mab.
Murphy is not a servant or Vassal Harry goes down, Murphy goes down. Harry is sure he can unravel what happened to Thomas before this becomes an issue and Murphy trusts Harry to do so.
Arjan:
--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on August 09, 2020, 07:49:46 AM ---Etri to Mab “release Thomas from Demonreach”
Mab to Etri ‘I can’t”
Etri to Lara “release Thomas from Demonreach”
Lara to Etri “I can’t “
Etri to to Harry “release Thomas from Demonreach”
Harry to Etri “ I can ,but I won’t”
Putting Thomas on Demonreach means Harry is outside Lara’s and Mab’s control completely when he is on the island, try and force him on the island and you get taken down whether Lara, Etri or Mab.
Murphy is not a servant or Vassal Harry goes down, Murphy goes down. Harry is sure he can unravel what happened to Thomas before this becomes an issue and Murphy trusts Harry to do so.
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Etri to Mab: order your vassal to release Thomas from the island, he is your responsibility.
If you want to have a criminal who is locked up in a foreign country you ask the government of that country not the governor of the local prison.
The_Sibelis:
Jim was once asked something along the lines of if Harry could take the Ladies Mantle, and his reply was not usually but Harry is one for breaking rules... Makes me wonder if Carlos staying a virgin isn't going to be relative to a powerful somehow actually...
vultur:
--- Quote from: Arjan on August 08, 2020, 05:24:41 PM ---Murphy is acting as Harry's retainer. Ask Toot.
And he can point to Mab as well. He is her vassal and she ordered him to obey Lara. He was only doing his duty. Ask Mab.
Basically it is Lara's duty to handle the diplomatic fallout and in the text she recognised that.
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Yeah.
The Svartalves may go after Thomas once he is healed and released from Demonreach, but they'll have real trouble going after Harry.
--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on August 08, 2020, 03:32:43 AM ---The only outcome which allows Thomas to walk free from Etri’s wrath is if someone else used Thomas as a cats paw, and Harry can prove it and offer them up instead to placate Etri.
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Not the only outcome, IMO. If Harry can get some other claim of honor of equal weight he might be able to get the Svartalves to drop it... for example if he saves Etri's life in BG.
...or he could always try the tactic of, "Yeah the Red Court tried to go after my family too. It didn't end well for them. You sure you want to try this?"
Not that I think it's a good idea...
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