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[PT Spoilers] Why Wait?
Conspiracy Theorist:
--- Quote from: Snark Knight on August 02, 2020, 08:29:36 PM ---Wait, where are you getting that the Erlking isn't on the Accords? He certainly seemed to be from Changes and Cold Days.
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In Changes Guest right pre-dates the Accords, and applies to pretty much the entire Never Never, not just the Accorded Nations. Erl refers to Harry as an unexpected guest, and Harry seizes upon that to his advantage.
In Cold days Erl is a guest of Mab, it’s a chance for him to catch up on people he normally doesn’t get much opportunity to meet, Kringle/Odin is the same.
This is why Erl isn’t present at the Peace Talks, not Accorded nor invited under Guest right. River Shoulders isn’t Accorded yet, but is there under Guest Right, it is most gracious for River to help defend his host.
Odin is guarding the Never Never from incursion by the Fomor, if he has any sense he will leave a gap on the FBI building which leads to the ErlKings Hall, see if the Fomor or their allies are foolhardy enough to disturb the Goblins. The will NOT be guests.
vultur:
--- Quote from: Mira on August 02, 2020, 10:12:44 AM ---Yes, but couldn't Rashid be considered more so? I mean we learned in Cold Days that he is more or less the general in charge of the defense of the Gates.
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I don't think he could really be considered Lea's "second", since he's not under her authority. He's a cooperating ally, not actually a member of Winter's forces. (And the Gatekeeper's job seems to be checking for Nemesis in the returning forces... Mab, or Lea when she's not there, is the general.)
--- Quote ---I think you are wrong there, Summer is Winter's back up,
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Titania's job is to protect mortals/the mortal world from Mab. She's a balance to Mab's power, not really a backup. Fighting the Fomor/Ethniu by Mab's side isn't part of that.
--- Quote ---if the Outsiders breech the Gates she stands to lose as well.
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Certainly (just like any other "Inside" being of this reality) but she certainly wasn't interested in helping in CD. She doesn't seem terribly rational.
--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on August 02, 2020, 10:31:17 AM ---Titania can’t add significantly to the defence of Chicago as regards manpower, but may attend if told that there is a significant chance that Harry Dresden may die horribly, it would cheer her up enormously and clearly something she wouldn’t want to miss.
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Now that might happen. But even if she shows up I don't think she will be very helpful.
Mira:
--- Quote ---I don't think he could really be considered Lea's "second", since he's not under her authority. He's a cooperating ally, not actually a member of Winter's forces. (And the Gatekeeper's job seems to be checking for Nemesis in the returning forces... Mab, or Lea when she's not there, is the general.)
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I'm not so sure of that, his robes are Winter's colors for example. The scene in Cold Days when he is on a magic carpet seemingly directing the troops, he is a lot more than a Nemesis x-ray machine.
That is why his actual job description is so secret.
--- Quote ---Titania's job is to protect mortals/the mortal world from Mab. She's a balance to Mab's power, not really a backup. Fighting the Fomor/Ethniu by Mab's side isn't part of that.
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Summer is a check on Winter if it gets out of line.. However I seem to remember I believe it was Mother Summer telling Harry they switch roles eon to eon protecting the Gates. However the main point is, if the Fomor/Ethniu side wins, she isn't going to have any mortals to protect is she? So I
seriously doubt she is going to sit this one out, Sarrisa certainly isn't.. Here is a wild thought that just entered my sleep deprived mind based on Christmas Eve.. Sorry, not a whole lot of logic, but Titania might even get killed in Battle Ground and Sarrisa is the new Summer Queen, which would be the beginning of a new era of cooperation between the Courts.
--- Quote ---Certainly (just like any other "Inside" being of this reality) but she certainly wasn't interested in helping in CD. She doesn't seem terribly rational.
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She helped in her own way, or rather she gave the help she was capable of at that moment.. She didn't kill Harry for starters, and she gave him the name of the enemy. That last was huge, it helped Harry spot that things weren't exactly kosher with Cat Sith, he otherwise wouldn't have been on his guard.
Second Aristh:
As far as the timing for Ethniu, I think we can chalk that up to her Black Council allies. Ethniu may be brave enough to bully Mab, but Winter > Mab. Ethniu needs Winter pinned down by Outsiders (which is what the new kids in the BC can promise her).
The rest of the Fomor's actions/timing could possibly be explained with showmanship. If they can break the Accords by discrediting Mab, the Fomor won't have to fight against a united enemy.
Conspiracy Theorist:
It’s deferent sets of defenders, the Greek gods were the previous defenders, I suspect the Accorded Nations will be the next set of Defenders,
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