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Mirror Mirror Next?
Smaug with OCD:
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--- Quote from: The_Sibelis on July 31, 2020, 09:49:37 PM ---yea, but I'd they know what a starborn does, and is immune to Nemesis then It creates whole host of other issues, why be afraid he went warlock in the first place? Why would Morgan even think he might be a Nemesis puppet unless he was totally ignorant of starborn? Idk, something ain't adding up... Plus we don't understand why Harry was meant to be a capital D Destroyer... This just makes more questions for me than answers... I really feel like Harry shouldn't have interrupted EB talking about starborn, there's more to it than what was said for sure. Feel like Jim gave us a piece to chew on but it's a misdirection... "Lookest thou over there!" And all
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That inconsistency could be an implication that Eb is Nemfected...
Yet more support for that theory...
ClintACK:
If Eb is Nemfected, then Harry just exposed his mind to the Outside in direct violation of the 7th law on the advice of a Nemfected individual, and we only have Eb's word that it was safe for Harry.
Perhaps the rash of continuity violations are actually Harry going mad?
morriswalters:
Perhaps they are a result of Jim creating two books out of one.
However no one is acting totally rationally. Almost like someone was influencing them.
vultur:
--- Quote from: The_Sibelis on July 31, 2020, 09:49:37 PM ---yea, but I'd they know what a starborn does, and is immune to Nemesis then It creates whole host of other issues, why be afraid he went warlock in the first place? Why would Morgan even think he might be a Nemesis puppet unless he was totally ignorant of starborn?
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- Being Starborn might protect you from Nemesis (and even that's just Harry's speculation), but wouldn't prevent you from going warlock. Harry was tainted by killing Justin, in the early books, although he seems to have overcome that.
- People might willingly use the Outsiders for power, even if not Nemfected. I doubt Nemesis bothered to infect the Evil Eye cult in BR, but they were using an Outsider-powered entropy curse.
- How sure was Morgan that Harry actually was Starborn? Maybe he couldn't rule out it being a deception by Lord Raith and Maggie Sr. (IE - maybe he wasn't convinced that Maggie Sr had ever really reformed.)
vultur:
--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on July 31, 2020, 08:41:23 AM ---The fact that the nails were angels themselves, makes me think this, I thought originally that the nails and the swords had been created by the ritual and that was it’s purpose, but the nails were already powered up, so what was the purpose?
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Other way around, I think. The nails and coins probably only contained angels and Fallen after they were given significance by the events around the Crucifixion.
--- Quote --- If Lucifer were patient zero for Nemesis then the object is to eventually cure him.
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I'm pretty sure Lucifer being Nemfected is ruled out by WOJs - both that Archangels can't be infected (not because they're on guard but because they're too metaphysically huge and/or immutable) and that Lucifer is anti-Outsider.
--- Quote from: The_Sibelis on July 31, 2020, 08:52:27 AM ---I remember it being suggested the placard could help find true names.
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Apparently Ethniu is known by several other names in Irish myth, so "Ethniu" might not be her True Name.
--- Quote from: Conspiracy Theorist on July 31, 2020, 10:40:21 AM ---If angels were immune you would’t Have Hellfire at Arctis Tor.
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Not necessarily - the human host could be Nemfected, or a Denarian might be working for the Outsiders without any Nemesis involved.
And "for" the Outsiders might be a loose term here. For all we know a Fallen angel wouldn't really lose anything if this particular universe got turned to "Empty Night"; there are a lot of other universes out there. So maybe Thorned Namshiel thinks that if this universe gets destroyed, he would be freed of his Coin (which would be destroyed with the rest of the matter in the universe) and then he wouldn't have to bother with working through a human host anymore.
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