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666 years and what follows - The Cycle
vultur:
Do we know Heaven has anything to do with destroying "lost" universes?
But anyway, the Winter Fae go Outside and fight them. Uriel's vastly stronger than Mab, much less random Sidhe soldiers.
--- Quote from: The_Sibelis on August 01, 2020, 06:29:14 AM ---Ok so I've spotted a huge flaw in this cycle being 666 years... Woj is Rashid was Harry the last cycle... But Rashid is waaay older than that.
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I think Rashid is two cycles ago... born in the 7th century, and took down Alhazred in the 8th.
Bad Alias:
--- Quote from: vultur on August 01, 2020, 07:44:31 AM ---Do we know Heaven has anything to do with destroying "lost" universes?
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No. I just think Jim's implied it.
--- Quote from: vultur on August 01, 2020, 07:44:31 AM ---But anyway, the Winter Fae go Outside and fight them. Uriel's vastly stronger than Mab, much less random Sidhe soldiers.
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Mab's way stronger than a random Summer Fae soldier, but she's balanced by Titania. I think something similar is going on with Creation vs. Outside.
Arjan:
We continuously hear how powerful Uriel is but that power is beyond a point almost meaningless. What is important is what he can do with that power. What he is allowed to do. What his duties are. He has enough power to do that.
The_Sibelis:
--- Quote from: Bad Alias on August 01, 2020, 08:23:38 PM ---No. I just think Jim's implied it.
Mab's way stronger than a random Summer Fae soldier, but she's balanced by Titania. I think something similar is going on with Creation vs. Outside.
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yeah, all of creation is in balance with the outside. Inside creates its own balance with itself to keep outside, outside
vultur:
--- Quote from: Bad Alias on August 01, 2020, 08:23:38 PM ---No. I just think Jim's implied it.
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In the books, or in a WoJ? Can you point me to something? That would be interesting to see.
--- Quote ---Mab's way stronger than a random Summer Fae soldier, but she's balanced by Titania. I think something similar is going on with Creation vs. Outside.
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Could be, but I kind of doubt it.
IIRC the thing where only mortals can summon Outsiders has to do with mortal Free Will, kind of like being invited into a threshold.
I think Mab and Winter are strong enough to counter any direct forces the Outsiders can bring against the Outer Gates, essentially by definition -- that is the purpose of their power.
The reason the Outsiders are still a big deal to beings vastly beyond Mab (like angels and fallen angels) is because they can't counter the Mortal Free Will side of things.
--- Quote from: Arjan on August 01, 2020, 08:36:09 PM ---We continuously hear how powerful Uriel is but that power is beyond a point almost meaningless. What is important is what he can do with that power. What he is allowed to do. What his duties are. He has enough power to do that.
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Yeah, exactly. Uriel isn't allowed to go disintegrate all the Outsiders, so he can't. But I don't think there are any Outsiders on the level of angels/archangels, or even the Faerie Mothers, or they'd just smash right through Winter's army at the Gates.
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